Disco Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Natural Gas trumps all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Natural Gas trumps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Idly reading the reaction to the decision at the time earlier on this thread, this question was asked about 2 minutes after the announcement... so what's the average temperature in Doha in june? 2 Minutes Blatter, 2 f*cking minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Qatar is a country the size of Wales, with even less people living there, a country with no football heritage or even any stadiums, an unsuitable climate, and no real opportunity for a meaningful legacy. It's such a f***ing joke on every level that it's incredible that FIFA had the nerve to even think about voting for it. Meanwhile by the time we get to 2022 it will have been 56 years since the last time it was held in England, a country that has some of the best stadiums and one of the most fervant football cultures in world football. Joke, joke joke. Really pisses me off, this. I'm angry about the whole thing, really am. Every game would have had huge attendances in England + easy to travel to as well as the things you mentioned. I fail to see, even with a massive bribe, how they'd make more money out of it being in Qatar. English FA needs to stand firm, as well as other countries. To hell with disrupting Europe's elite leagues to make it easier for a corrupt arsehole nation like Qatar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would have liked to see a combined Middle East bid shared between a few countries. I can see the idea of promoting football in the region, but you're right the challenges and drawbacks are massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 It's pathetic how little fans count in the overall picture. The ideal World Cup for us ordinary folk is somewhere where the facilities are good, travel is easy (both to and from the country and internally), and there's plenty to do between matches – somewhere that makes for a nice summer trip. Not a fucking tiny desert state where no one in their right minds would take a holiday, where alcohol is forbidden and where ordinary folk might get thrown in prison just for being, say, gay. Nor in winter at a time when people might have difficulty travelling. Germany, Brazil -- these are good places for a World Cup. Qatar, Russia -- hopeless. Though at least you can get a drink in Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Premier League clubs (and other leagues) should just play without their internationals, rather than take a month off. Those two pre-seasons are a complete joke man, once again club football is forgotten about in favour of the internationals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Scrap the CL and Europa League for that season and play the December games midweek to catch up. Problem solved. Also make Qatar pay for all the prize money and lost TV rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Scrap the CL and Europa League for that season and play the December games midweek to catch up. Problem solved. Also make Qatar pay for all the prize money and lost TV rights. Aye, problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Aye, cancel the Champions League, problem solved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Premier League clubs (and other leagues) should just play without their internationals, rather than take a month off. Those two pre-seasons are a complete joke man, once again club football is forgotten about in favour of the internationals. If France dont make it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 World Cup is one thing but god knows what Qatar will do when they host the Winter Olympics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 For what it is worth, I don't think the actual World Cup in Qatar will be much trouble at all. It is a small, compact, and organised country with an incredible fortune at its disposal. I'm sure they will do everything possible to make the tournament hospitable to foreign travelers and to ease transportation and housing concerns. I actually think it will be quite a show. The real one people should be worrying about is Russia. I believe this has to the potential to go very badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That's all well and good but the World Cup should be somewhere else, right? Why do we have to keep having it in wackier and wackier places meaning that the people in the countries that have made football what it is for over a century never get to see it in their own country? The odd one fair enough, I could see the point in having one in the States and in Japan/South Korea and in South Africa, but that sort of choice shouldn't be so frequent IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That's all well and good but the World Cup should be somewhere else, right? Why do we have to keep having it in wackier and wackier places meaning that the people in the countries that have made football what it is for over a century never get to see it in their own country? The odd one fair enough, I could see the point in having one in the States and in Japan/South Korea and in South Africa, but that sort of choice shouldn't be so frequent IMO. Don't see what's wacky about Russia like, they've a rich footballing (and wider sporting) history and tradition. The main issues surrounding that one are non-footballing reasons: corruption, social inequalities, visas for foreigners etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think it's pretty wacky when it was up against England and Spain. Why did Russia get it when England hasn't had it for so long and thoroughly deserves another one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think it's pretty wacky when it was up against England and Spain. Why did Russia get it when England hasn't had it for so long and thoroughly deserves another one? But by the way it's done (by region) using those reasons it'd never get too host it (so long as one of the status quo bid for it) despite that Russia has never hosted it, has the capability too and has appeared in 9 World Cup finals (under various guises). I was as narked as anyone that England didn't get a sniff but for footballing reasons I don't see the problem with it going to Russia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 That's the fundamental problem, I don't think it should rotate by region the way it does. It should go to Europe/South America half of the time, if not three quarters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 To be frank with you, it is not possible for me to care less about England and it's hope of a World Cup. Its citizens have direct access to the most watched and followed league in the world for nine months of every single year. People will live without it. Undoubtedly, it would be an exciting event, probably akin to Germany 2006 in terms of being very well run while also being very familiar. Brazil is the most successful nation in the history of the sport, and will have waited 64 years to host once more. No one has done it more than twice. If I was in control of everything, I would alternate the tournament between the fully industrialised football hotbeds and nations that either are mad for the game, but developing economically or economically developed, but not known for football. I do agree that a run of four World Cups that counts Brazil as the most stable location is quite ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Seems we roughly agree then, apart from the England thing. I personally think it's fucking stupid that arguably the most football-daft country in the world has only hosted the competition once and that was ages ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 the fact that England only one vote (iirc) was the ridiculous thing when from an infrastructure point of view there's few easier places to hold it, good level of public transport, stable country, high level stadiums required for such an event already exist and for the most part wouldn't turn into massive white elephants just sitting there decaying after the party's left and a very football mad population which would fill the grounds for each game. The more I think of the very existence of FIFA and the shit they pull when a world cup comes to a country makes me more and more disillusioned with international football and wonder why the hell should I give 2 shits about it, it takes a lot of effort to make the elite clubs normally utterly morally bankrupt in every sense look like good guys but my god compared to FIFA, UEFA and all the sniveling spineless football associations throughout the world they look like bloody saints and frankly the game of football would be best served by them saying a big fuck you to all of the above and striking off on their own and taking all the best players with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 A big part of the problem is that the people making the decisions are all obsessed with the idea of "legacy", as if the only point of staging a World Cup was to leave behind a bit of sporting infrastructure... like the now barely used white elephant stadiums in South Africa. England already having great stadiums then becomes part of the problem. "No point doing the World Cup there, they don't need the legacy." I seem to remember Qatar arguing that they would build temporary, prefabricated stadiums for the World Cup and then afterwards donate these to needy undeveloped countries who are gagging for new places to play football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 You guys should have paid the fucking bribe money then, instead of relying solely on Beckham's blowjob abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Didn't he have long hair then? Surprised it didn't provide proper grip for Blatter. Maybe he's a hands-free kinda guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 IOC isn't exactly happy with FIFA over this winter world cup thing since its threatening to get in the way of their winter olympics and is even a threat of throwing football out of the Olympics-which will not upset Blatter and Co in the slightest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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