AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Not much in that article from .com really, don't see the point they're making. If Hughton's problem was that he was a 'yes man', then why was that? And why would Ashley now appoint someone who isn't one? Are we supposed to believe he's now ready to spend the money needed to move us into the European places and is just looking for the right manager to give the cheque book to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Ian Darke mentions message board outrage, I'm just going to believe it was us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 .com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Its been difficult holding this in at work all day, so here it goes. This club disgusts me. If I supported somebody else, I know I would hate this club so much. To sack a wonderful man like Hughton who has done above and beyond his duty in this manner is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. It’s completely the wrong decision. For 18 months, I’ve supported a happy, stable club full of likable people and this anti-Newcastle was a breath of fresh air. And suddenly, like déjà vu, the clouds are back. This haunting flashback to relegation year is reprehensible and after recent weeks, we’re gonners now. And to be honest this board deserves to be relegated. We’re falling apart at the seams. Chris, you’re a great great man and thanks for the memories. You’re better off without us and I wish you the very best in everything you do. A wonderful man. I wonder how Enrique, Tiote, Nolan, Ben Arfa, Carroll, Jonas etc are feeling.... And to all those around the world that laugh at NUFC, you’re absolutely right. This club will always be a joke. So keep on laughing. I wish I could. With today’s news and the FIFA debacle, I’m just so so sick of football right now. Never felt like this before. All in all, just a horrible, terrible day. Sums up my feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 I wasn't too keen on .com's article either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us (KK?), rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Martin Jol has just taken over at Ajax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us, rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. Exactly mate, total nonsense. Hughton could have been the next Fergie for all we know. We're never going to develop young English managers if things like this happen to them. I'm right behind the LMA in objecting to this, it's scandalous. So sick of clubs chossing from the same old pool of managers over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 What worries more than anything is the fact that no self resoecting manager would want ot work at Newcastle with these two at the helm. Unless, of course, Ashley has now decided to put his hand in his pocket and domsomething in January. Waiting with dread to see who they put in his place. Well done Chris, brought respectability back and for that alone it was worth it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypee Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Kind of shocked at this (mostly just angry and sad), I felt that Chris did a decent job, and a good enough job for us to at least stay up and maybe even finish the season in a comfortable mid-table spot. But then again, Ashley really knows how to fuck things up. Very worried now that we are going to get relegated, especially if the players liked Hughton as much as they said they were. I do not at all trust Ashley and Llambias to appoint a manager capable of doing a better job than Hughton has done, and the experience thing does not necessarily mean we will get a successful manager, I am thinking more like a typical under-achieving drifter who there are so many of in this game. Anyway, thank you Chris Hughton for getting us up in the Premiership again, and for giving us some fantastic and memorable moments, both in terms of performances and some great signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us (KK?), rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. indeed. Very strange article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 lost for words, dont even have the energy anymore to start thinkin about what to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 .com have been a joke for a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 .com talking absolute shit, yet again I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 true faith take on events... As is only right and proper, the first thing this gobshite fanzine should do is to register its thanks to Chris Hughton. Like many I had reservations of Chris’ suitability for the post and after publishing a cover with our new departed manager as a puppet of Ashley (a cover I regret and apologise for) it ill befits me to suggest I was in any way a loyal supplicant to Hughton. Whatever the rights or wrongs of Chris Hughton’s dismissal it would be extremely churlish to do anything other than register heartfelt appreciation for the job the man did at Newcastle United. Chris Hughton will be judged as a very good servant of Newcastle United Football Club. Let us not forget where the club was when he picked up the reins. We had been relegated, Ashley wanted out, Shearer wanted the job, there was a pool of demoralised players and a fretful support bewildered at what was going to happen to our club following relegation in May 09. Into that Hughton built something. The first job was to stop the rot and with the support of senior players, not dissimilar to SBR ten years previously, Hughton did that with a team spirit and sense of purpose which took us to promotion and a title win. Our return to the PL at the first time of asking was absolutely vital. Hughton had little money to spend over his tenure but I feel in Williamson, Tiote and Simpson he has invested well for the future. The jury is out on Best and Routledge but his role in the development of Andy Carroll cannot be understated. This season, the team has had mixed fortunes but after 16 games we have 19 points, which is not too far from where we want to be. He has done this despite, it seems, being undermined by his bosses firstly with media tales of Ashley looking for a successor and latterly by being unable to replace his lieutenant, Colin Calderwood, now at Hibs. Really when Chris was prevented from appointing a seemingly willing Steve Clarke, the writing was on the wall. And now to the meat of it... Is Ashley right to dismiss Hughton? Frankly, it is too early to say. If there’s one thing we know about change at United, it is that sacking managers is the really easy bit. The bit that the club has only really got right on two occasions in the last 40 years is appointing managers. Ashley stumbled over Hughton. This is a real test of Ashley’s credentials - found to be sadly lacking in football terms over the tumultuous three years he has spent as owner of our club. This is where he can prove he knows what he’s doing and inspire some confidence going forward. Get it wrong and the club could go into a tailspin. Remember there has been no clamour from Mags to remove Hughton. Indeed, the support has remained solidly behind a man it has broadly come to like and respect. There are no delusions on Barrack Road these days. If there ever were. Mags know this season is all about survival and we were happy to engage with that project for the long term future of our club. This sacking is all of Ashley’s making. There was no pressure from Mags. Chris Hughton has not been howled out of Gallowgate like Souness was and the most common emotion I’ve come across is incredulity at Hughton’s departure and a sadness we have broken a bond with a man of quiet dignity who got the job done. A man who was honest, a bull-shit free zone and a man who will be welcomed back here any time. On the face of it there is potential in this decision for the club to move forward. After all, a new manager could be in-situ ahead of the January transfer window opening rather than closing as has been custom and practice on Barrack Road in recent seasons. If that manager is of the quality, say of a Martin O’Neill and is correctly resourced and is operating to a realistic plan then we should have hope for the future. If Hughton is replaced by an Alan Pardew, Curbishley, O’Leary or God forbid, Joe Kinnear happy to make non-football decisions at the instruction of his boss, then we will know emphatically the club is going absolutely nowhere. Once again, the club is at a crossroads. But finally on behalf of everyone associated with true faith may we wish Chris Hughton all of the success in his professional life and happiness for his family in the future. Thank You. Keep On, Keepin’ On... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us (KK?), rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. indeed. Very strange article. Dont see what they have said wrong, its not gushing over Hughton and they are repeating what they said way back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Had no idea you worked on True Faith, binnsy Might buy it more often now, always wanted you to post on here more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us (KK?), rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. indeed. Very strange article. Dont see what they have said wrong, its not gushing over Hughton and they are repeating what they said way back. mentioning his race for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperShola! Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Ohh, I am vexed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 On the face of it there is potential in this decision for the club to move forward. After all, a new manager could be in-situ ahead of the January transfer window opening rather than closing as has been custom and practice on Barrack Road in recent seasons. If that manager is of the quality, say of a Martin ONeill and is correctly resourced and is operating to a realistic plan then we should have hope for the future. If Hughton is replaced by an Alan Pardew, Curbishley, OLeary or God forbid, Joe Kinnear happy to make non-football decisions at the instruction of his boss, then we will know emphatically the club is going absolutely nowhere. spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Had no idea you worked on True Faith, binnsy Might buy it more often now, always wanted you to post on here more. I assumed he'd just c+p'd it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6557433,00.html This is the same bloke who said his team selection against Arsenal in the Carling Cup was a resignation letter. The man is a tosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Bad craic from .com iyam. Hate this attitude that because Hughton was unproven, he was always going to be unproven. Is it too much to ask that a manager could become a success with us (KK?), rather than become a success elsewhere then be asked to recreate it under different conditions? What retarded logic is that? It's like selling Andy Carroll because of a lack of experience. indeed. Very strange article. Dont see what they have said wrong, its not gushing over Hughton and they are repeating what they said way back. mentioning his race for starters. I think you are reading to much into that comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Had no idea you worked on True Faith, binnsy Might buy it more often now, always wanted you to post on here more. I assumed he'd just c+p'd it? He might have, but I'd still like to see him post on here more often - good poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Can't stand this "well yeah he was never going to be a great manager" stuff. Condescending shit, as Ian W said earlier, and John Carver before him, no wonder none of our English managers get anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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