Alan Pardew

[NG32]

Pardew isn't a bad manager. But, if you play with fire, you get your fingers burnt. It looks more and more with every presser he does that Llambias and Ashley have led him up the garden path.

 

Everything leads back to daft cunt and daft cunt.

 

Biggest pair of liars the world has ever seen.

 

KK warned us, they were proven in public to be liars and are showing themselves up to be liars again.

 

 

 

[Guest Mantis]

Pardew: “The problem is that where we are now financially means that we can never really fulfill the expectations of the fans. They have memories of European football but the gap is ­getting bigger as the years go by."

 

 

He's suggesting that European football is beyond us, but we were only 4 wins off Liverpool in 6th place last year. If we'd used our momentum to add to what we had then we could have gone upwards, just as we did after promotion then 3rd place under Keegan.

 

As Pardew says the gap is getting ever wider between those with European enhanced incomes and the rest, but we have the stadium and the support to be up there again. We have to use momentum and build on it, not keep bringing ourselves to a grinding halt while praying that we don't go backwards. A winning team can sell players easily and at a premium - but don't sell them until the team has evolved enough to not need them.

 

We could speculate to accumulate without mortgaging our future - by all means scout far and wide and buy bargains, but let them earn their way over time into a succesful team then sell off the slack. Evolution not constant painful revolution.

 

It is absolutely scandalous that this club with it's known fanbase, gate receipts and turnover, is now being told we can't push on 3 or 4 places in the Premiership. Fucking outrageous. Yes we can, smaller clubs are doing it on a shoestring aswell. It marks a clear lack of willing.  You wouldn't even need to spend anywhere near 35m to kick on if there was the will and at least a couple of people who know something about football. For gambling men it seems they aren't prepared to speculate enough.  I still think pardew is a wanker aswell. He's still Derek's mouthpiece and he is clearly happy to have a job and accept substandard performance.

[Mistle17]

You can see he's getting more and more frustrated with the absolute bullshit he's having to tolerate, but in fairness its what the man signed up for- many before him had tried to work with this regime but simply found their position untenable. Imo, should Pardew go then it would be an absolute disaster for the club- we'd end up with Steve Stone as manager...

 

The thing that really kills me is that ownership isn't like a manager; you can't just sack them when you've had enough, they'll always be there until a suitable offer comes along....and at the moment that just doesn't look realistic.

 

The club will languish in the doldrums as long as Ashley and Llambias run the club. Very depressing.

[midds]

Pedro would get the job. New messiah, fresh start etc.

[Wallace]

Pedro would get the job. New messiah, fresh start etc.

 

Well that would be one way to get a load of players off the wage bill because they would be queuing up to leave.

 

[Mistle17]

Thinking about it, where else would you find a club that is the countries third best supported team (attendance wise) stumbling around with no ambition like us? It's ridiculous. And as said, to say we can't even think of challenging for a UEFA Cup place is simply unacceptable! It almost strikes as a refusal to dream or be ambitious. Sickening.

[Wallace]

Thinking about it, where else would you find a club that is the countries third best supported team (attendance wise) stumbling around with no ambition like us? It's ridiculous. And as said, to say we can't even think of challenging for a UEFA Cup place is simply unacceptable! It almost strikes as a refusal to dream or be ambitious. Sickening.

 

It also shows a lack of understanding of the club and supporters.  If you get the supporters onside , give them some hope and excitement then a momentum builds which would generate more revenue for the club - seeing as that seems to be the only thing Ashley is interested in.

 

If you keep telling supporters that we are unable to compete and just have to hope we can stay in the league, then more and more supporters will drift away and more money will be lost.

 

[Skirge]

The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat fucker is heading us in that direction.

Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly.

 

2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554..  2005 we played Deportivo  in front of 34,215

 

 

League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB.

Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter shit way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already.

[Guest ykmkmdd]

Something inside Northerngimp has snapped today like.

[Dr Venkman]

Pardew isn't a bad manager. But, if you play with fire, you get your fingers burnt. It looks more and more with every presser he does that Llambias and Ashley have led him up the garden path.

 

if they have then he's un-mentionably stupid tbh

[Wallace]

The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction.

Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly.

 

2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554..  2005 we played Deportivo  in front of 34,215

 

 

League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB.

Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already.

 

Absolutely agree.  And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club.

 

They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going.

 

[BottledDog]

Thinking about it, where else would you find a club that is the countries third best supported team (attendance wise) stumbling around with no ambition like us? It's ridiculous. And as said, to say we can't even think of challenging for a UEFA Cup place is simply unacceptable! It almost strikes as a refusal to dream or be ambitious. Sickening.

 

We may have the third best supported team (attendance wise) but where do we come in terms of actual premiership gate receipts?

[Ryan_Taylor]

Pardew isn't here because he's the best manager we could attract like...

[BottledDog]

The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction.

Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly.

 

2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554..  2005 we played Deportivo  in front of 34,215

 

 

League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB.

Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already.

 

Absolutely agree.  And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club.

 

They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going.

 

 

Spot on.

 

[Guest H09]

I remember when Pardew was manager at Reading and he had some dirty patter about getting them into Europe!

 

 

[JH]

Pardew isn't a bad manager. But, if you play with fire, you get your fingers burnt. It looks more and more with every presser he does that Llambias and Ashley have led him up the garden path.

 

Yup, he's an idiot for getting involved and he's a slimy cunt but it's not like he's sat in his office going "You know what, I don't want to spend that £35m. I want to get rid of Nolan and Enrique and not spend a penny..."

[JH]

The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction.

Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly.

 

2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554..  2005 we played Deportivo  in front of 34,215

 

 

League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB.

Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already.

 

Absolutely agree.  And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club.

 

They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going.

 

 

Yup. They're seriously testing people's thresholds and they'll soon give up buying merchandise and attending the games etc. as often. And then it'll be too late for Ashley to do anything about it - he'll lose a fortune more.

[David28]

The thought of seeing SJP as empty as Boro's shithole on a match day breaks my heart, but this fat f***er is heading us in that direction.

Around 12 and a half thousand there yesterday.. it was not that long ago even if it had been £20 a ticket and in the pissing down rain we would have had a good turn out for a pre season friendly.

 

2004 we played Rangers in a pre season friendly in front of 31,554..  2005 we played Deportivo  in front of 34,215

 

 

League home games were always a sell out, a season ticket was like gold dust with massive waiting lists, now we hardly see a full house unless its one of the top 5 clubs we are playing or the SMB.

Its not about being priced out its about fans having enough the utter s*** way we are being ran, its a sad sad fact that Alan Pardew is the best manager we can attract and even he seems sick to death already.

 

Absolutely agree.  And I don't understand why the club don't seem to have any comprehension of the damage they are slowly doing to the club.

 

They need to keep the people of this city interested in NUFC because if not, we are not Man Utd or Liverpool who can fall back on the overseas markets and tourists to keep us going.

 

 

Yup. They're seriously testing people's thresholds and they'll soon give up buying merchandise and attending the games etc. as often. And then it'll be too late for Ashley to do anything about it - he'll lose a fortune more.

 

He'll have another messiah in the waiting, for sure. (to get the fans happy again)

[Sifu]

It scares the s*** out of me who would replace him should he walk/ get sacked!

 

I think he's an average-good manager who is ideal for where we are now

 

Agree with that. Not many decent managers out of work, even less that will put up with Ashley.

 

Exactly. As mental as it sounds, i think we'd be f***ed if Pardew went.

 

This.

[Guest BooBoo]

Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under.

 

Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players".

 

Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa.

 

Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley.,

[Guest michaelfoster]

remember it is the middle of the school holidays so a lot of people will be away

[BottledDog]

Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under.

 

Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players".

 

Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa.

 

Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley.,

 

Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing.  

 

Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands?

[Ryan_Taylor]

Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under.

 

Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players".

 

Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa.

 

Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley.,

 

Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing. 

 

Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands?

 

Villa probably have. Have the other two done any business?

[Dave]

As if Spurs needed to do a lot of business anyway.

[BottledDog]

Pardew's latest quotes about us not being able to match fan expectations, says everything about the regime he's working under.

 

Ashley is clearly not prepared at all to fund any aspect of the club any more and running costs have to be met on the whole by transfer fees. Hence the Carroll money being swallowed up by agent fees, new dug outs, bore holes and training ground developments. He says that the club has to wipe its own nose, so I expect cash from the likes of Carroll, Enrique and no doubt in the future Tiote and Colo to be spent on running costs. No matter how much we bring in, outgoing transfer fees will always be minimal. Ideally, we want loans, contract rebels or freebies and if transfer funds HAVE to be spent, then they will be on players who will be almost guaranteed to retain or increase their value- therefore the obsession with "young, hungry players".

 

Pardew is wrong when he says we can't compete. After all, only Chelsea and Man City have limitless pots of cash. There's absolutely no reason why, with a bit of ambition, we couldnt build over three or four years and be competing with the likes of Everton, Villa and even Tottenham. The problem is the owner chooses not to compete. He doesnt want to spend money on the club and under his set up even the timid ambitions of "top ten finish every year" look fanciful. With such a way of running the club and continuing to buy on the cheap, Premier League survival will be the limit of our ambitions. Scouring the earth for players like Tiote, ie relatively unheard of gems, will turn up 9 Xisco esque players for every star find. Furthermore when such a gem turns up, it will be only a matter of time before they are spirited away by a team that "we can't compete with"- like Wigan or Villa.

 

Depressing really, but that's NUFC under Mike Ashley.,

 

Looks to me like that is exactly what we're doing.  

 

Do you think any one of those clubs has done better business than us this summer as it stands?

 

Villa probably have. Have the other two done any business?

 

11 players out (2 in) including their 2 wingers, of which they have replaced only one. How have villa done better exactly?