Mick Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 'We've still got a better squad than we finished with last year.' Debatable, time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Just laughing at his backtracking on what he said during the transfer window. In what way is the squad any deeper or stronger btw? What positions? Midfield and striker (we added a striker to the same strike-force that finished last season) Okay, I'll give you the striker (pitiful as that argument is considering Ameobi and Lovenkrands are still starting games) but how are we stronger in midfield? Every player that came in replaced another going out. Cabaye replaced Nolan, Marveaux replaced Routledge, Obertan replaced Barton. Going further, Santon replaced Enrique, and even Elliot has replaced Forster. We can argue the toss about who are the better individuals, but how we have a stronger squad is beyond me. Isn't a stronger squad arguably about the players in it as opposed to the depth of the squad? If Pardew believes that the players who have come in are better than those that are left, that would mean we have a stronger squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I could actually see us sign Erding in January once he's realised how little game time he'll get. Can't blame him for wanting to see how things pan out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I could actually see us sign Erding in January once he's realised how little game time he'll get. Can't blame him for wanting to see how things pan out. i'm blaming him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I have a feeling Mehdi Abeid will prove to be a quality addition before the season is out. Speculation at this point, but when talking about the strength of the squad he might be worth considering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 He went off on a stretcher yesterday like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 strongest line up = top (5)-6-7th. overall the squad isn´t strong enough....unless vuckic, sameobi, abeid and the other youngsters is ready to step up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 http://m.chroniclelive.co.uk/ms/p/tmg/newcchro/swI0R47fFherBuQZY7aKz0w/view.m?id=3471937&tid=638956&cat=NUFC_News We've still got a better squad than we finished with last year. :lol: Like some have said, time will tell I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lay off of Pardew you scumbags! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lay off of Pardew you scumbags! He's right. HBA's still knacked, and it's a pisser that Vukic and Abeid are out for a couple of weeks, and yes yes yes we still need a fkn number 9, but just looking at the bench we have mustered this season compared to where we finished last season makes me a good deal happier about the squad to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 @lee_ryder Lee Ryder AP:"7 months is a long time but we put targets in front of the board then it's down to finances,Ruiz bid was genuine, we bid for 4 players" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Pardew: 'Criticism (over) not getting striker has some validity. Targets put in front of board, then came down to financial decision.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 *cough* Bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I assume the 4 players we bid for were: Cisse, Maiga, Ruiz and Ridgewell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 *cough* Bullshit What's bullshit? He's basically saying people are right to criticise the board. Well said Pardew me owld sun. If we did bid for Ruiz mind, I hope he means prior to him winging his way into London, otherwise that's about as terrifyingly knee-jerk as you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 The Ruiz bid was definitely knee-jerk like (imo anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it was a bid, it was a bid we knew wouldn't come to fruition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it was a bid, it was a bid we knew wouldn't come to fruition. There is absolutely no chance we are deliberately making bids we know will fail. I don't believe that for a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I assume the 4 players we bid for were: Cisse, Maiga, Ruiz and Ridgewell. 4 strikers over the summer (Gameiro, Erdinc, Maiga, Ruiz?) or 4 players on deadline day? What he's said about Ruiz doesn't seem to tally with other sources. With Pardew re-iterating that he has no part in negotiations and finances he probably doesn't know himself what happened. How that particular deal could break down on finances is almost impossible to comprehend - they'd already accepted a bid from Fulham so we just had to match that. Offering any amount less means we weren't serious about making a bid and all this talk of helicopters is what? A diversion, an facade, a piss-take? And if we were making a genuine approach, why wait until a couple of hours left on the last day? Mind boggling.... Of course with twente saying only fulham bid, jol saying we never bid, and ruiz himself saying were no discussions with us it all adds up to there being little to no substance there. i do wonder if Pardew is just trying to protect the board here, while still feeling angry that they didnt do the business they should've. feel a bit sorry for him tbh, between a rock and a hard place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I assume the 4 players we bid for were: Cisse, Maiga, Ruiz and Ridgewell. 4 strikers over the summer (Gameiro, Erdinc, Maiga, Ruiz?) or 4 players on deadline day? What he's said about Ruiz doesn't seem to tally with other sources. With Pardew re-iterating that he has no part in negotiations and finances he probably doesn't know himself what happened. How that particular deal could break down on finances is almost impossible to comprehend - they'd already accepted a bid from Fulham so we just had to match that. Offering any amount less means we weren't serious about making a bid and all this talk of helicopters is what? A diversion, an facade, a p*ss-take? And if we were making a genuine approach, why wait until a couple of hours left on the last day? Mind boggling.... Of course with twente saying only fulham bid, jol saying we never bid, and ruiz himself saying were no discussions with us it all adds up to there being little to no substance there. i do wonder if Pardew is just trying to protect the board here, while still feeling angry that they didnt do the business they should've. feel a bit sorry for him tbh, between a rock and a hard place. Could be this actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it was a bid, it was a bid we knew wouldn't come to fruition. There is absolutely no chance we are deliberately making bids we know will fail. I don't believe that for a second. I'm generally not sold on the idea either, but with all the inconsistent reports, I honestly don't know. It was a major knee-jerk, and a long shot, at "best". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 If it was a bid, it was a bid we knew wouldn't come to fruition. There is absolutely no chance we are deliberately making bids we know will fail. I don't believe that for a second. Keegan said they did that when he was there. 'We agreed a price, and they went away bidding lower knowing it would get rejected'. Im stunned that you rule out this sort of behaviour if you've read the tribunal report and see how they behaved/what they accepted from their DOF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 *cough* Bullshit What's bullshit? He's basically saying people are right to criticise the board. Well said Pardew me owld sun. If we did bid for Ruiz mind, I hope he means prior to him winging his way into London, otherwise that's about as terrifyingly knee-jerk as you can get. The tweet from Lee Ryder. Ney chance that was a genuine bid for Ruiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 You are hereSport>Sport Columnists>Black & White Pardew breaks silence on transfer window frustration UPBEAT ... United manager Alan Pardew believes his squad is stronger than it was a year ago. By MILES STARFORTH Published on Thursday 8 September 2011 11:34 ALAN Pardew’s come out fighting after a troubled end to the transfer window – and insisted Newcastle United’s squad IS stronger than it was a year ago. The club’s failure to land a replacement for January departure Andy Carroll angered supporters. It also frustrated Pardew, who also lost influential trio Joey Barton, Jose Enrique and Kevin Nolan this summer. Newcastle boss Pardew eyes Swiss strikers And those high-profile departures, coupled with the lack of another incoming forward, has left fans again questioning the club’s ambition. Up to now, Pardew has kept his counsel on Newcastle’s abortive efforts to sign a striker, which went to the wire last Wednesday. However, Pardew has broken his silence ahead of Monday night’s visit to Queens Park Rangers – and pleaded with supporters to continue to back his team whatever their misgivings about the club’s controversial recruitment policy. He’s also reiterated his confidence in the players that did arrive at St James’s Park, among them Yohan Cabaye, Demba Ba, Davide Santon and Gabriel Obertan, believing his side can compete for a top-10 finish in the Premier League. “We’ve still got a better squad than we finished with last year, even without the signing (of a striker on deadline day),” said Pardew. “I don’t want to go into that too much, but I just think we’ve started well, and players are playing well. “We have players in form and we need to keep moving forward. “We have everybody pulling in the same direction, and that’s something that can’t be taken away from us. “No matter how much bad publicity we’ve had, or negativity there is around the place, we still have great team spirit. That’s what we’ll take to QPR.” Pardew’s name was chanted by fans in United’s last game – a 2-1 home win over Fulham – but anger has been directed in his direction as well as the club’s hierarchy since the transfer window closed. On the discontent among supporters, Pardew went on: “We hope they support us in the same manner they always do. “They’ve been brilliant for us. That helps massively away from home. “They’re loud and noisy and that helps the team. We hope that we give them a performance that is going to give them a lift after missing out on the transfer window striker that we all wanted.” Newcastle go into the QPR game on the back of an unbeaten start to the season. Neil Warnock’s team, meanwhile, are looking a far tougher proposition than they did a few weeks ago, new owner Tony Fernandes having bankrolled a spending spree late in the window. Joey Barton, Shaun Wright-Phillips and Anton Ferdinand all arrived at Loftus Road to significantly strengthen Warnock’s squad. “We want to continue our good start,” said Pardew. “But I think it’s important that we understand that they’ll be buoyed by the new signings, and there will be a little bit of optimism around the place. “We have to make sure we counter that, because that enthusiasm could drive them to a win. We need to match it.” http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/sport-columnists/black-white/pardew_breaks_silence_on_transfer_window_frustration_1_3753140 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Doesn't really say anything Not really breaking a silence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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