Nobody Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Good couple of posts there, VaVaVoom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man Your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post that you are quoting. Feel free to explain what you don't understand about the sentence "They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however." i was replying to this as all evidence points to the opposite of what you're saying basically EDIT: what i would say though, in their defence, is that if they could have found another good striker who was cheap or free then they'd have had no hesitation in signing him it's clear to me, as it should now be to everyone, that we will not be spending money over and above what we recoup in fees from sales (unless it's a HBA type signing who is clearly worth more than the fee paid) was it coincidence maiga went on "strike"? personally i don't think so, the only thing preventing his cut price arrival was the reluctance of his club to cave in 2 misconduct allegations in one window, frankly i'm amazed it's so few - it'll become par for the course imo...it's well known ashley likes to throw the rule book away in his business dealings, why would this be different? Well, fine. You carry on believing that we're making player bids for PR reasons alone, and I'll carry on thinking you're two fries short of a Happy Meal. people have already pointed out numerous examples of why you're wrong mate, read the writing, or answer my questions in that last post I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. Said after a 5 year non-stop argument with Leazes Mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. Said after a 5 year non-stop argument with Leazes Mag. Is he insane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Well, I'm not a psychiatrist, nor do I play one on TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man Your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post that you are quoting. Feel free to explain what you don't understand about the sentence "They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however." i was replying to this as all evidence points to the opposite of what you're saying basically EDIT: what i would say though, in their defence, is that if they could have found another good striker who was cheap or free then they'd have had no hesitation in signing him it's clear to me, as it should now be to everyone, that we will not be spending money over and above what we recoup in fees from sales (unless it's a HBA type signing who is clearly worth more than the fee paid) was it coincidence maiga went on "strike"? personally i don't think so, the only thing preventing his cut price arrival was the reluctance of his club to cave in 2 misconduct allegations in one window, frankly i'm amazed it's so few - it'll become par for the course imo...it's well known ashley likes to throw the rule book away in his business dealings, why would this be different? Well, fine. You carry on believing that we're making player bids for PR reasons alone, and I'll carry on thinking you're two fries short of a Happy Meal. people have already pointed out numerous examples of why you're wrong mate, read the writing, or answer my questions in that last post I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. sorry but what's insane? i'd go as far as to say you're deluded about the way the club is ran tbh we're allegedly tapping players up, exploiting contractual loopholes (fair enough like) and disputes between players and clubs in the name of getting people in free or cheap...yeah i'm bonkers there's no answer to the striker "bids" as we're not party to inside info but for you to claim your opinion of things is any more worthy than mine, or the other people here and elsewhere who believe we're being led up the garden path every window, is again a bit deluded the gameiro and gervihno bids might have been real, maybe they thought they'd get one of those two players by bidding quickly and low, i accept that might have been their goal to spend money and virtually guarantee increased sell-on value...however in the harsh reality of the world transfer market that strategy was pretty insane wouldn't you say? just to reiterate, as you appear to have let it slip your mind; we needed another striker in january and we sold carroll for 35m, we went into the summer needing 2 top class strikers and we got one free transfer, who looks like he might be decent, but as yet has done very little in our shirt i'm batshit insane yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man Your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post that you are quoting. Feel free to explain what you don't understand about the sentence "They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however." i was replying to this as all evidence points to the opposite of what you're saying basically EDIT: what i would say though, in their defence, is that if they could have found another good striker who was cheap or free then they'd have had no hesitation in signing him it's clear to me, as it should now be to everyone, that we will not be spending money over and above what we recoup in fees from sales (unless it's a HBA type signing who is clearly worth more than the fee paid) was it coincidence maiga went on "strike"? personally i don't think so, the only thing preventing his cut price arrival was the reluctance of his club to cave in 2 misconduct allegations in one window, frankly i'm amazed it's so few - it'll become par for the course imo...it's well known ashley likes to throw the rule book away in his business dealings, why would this be different? Well, fine. You carry on believing that we're making player bids for PR reasons alone, and I'll carry on thinking you're two fries short of a Happy Meal. people have already pointed out numerous examples of why you're wrong mate, read the writing, or answer my questions in that last post I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. sorry but what's insane? i'd go as far as to say you're deluded about the way the club is ran tbh we're allegedly tapping players up, exploiting contractual loopholes (fair enough like) and disputes between players and clubs in the name of getting people in free or cheap...yeah i'm bonkers there's no answer to the striker "bids" as we're not party to inside info but for you to claim your opinion of things is any more worthy than mine, or the other people here and elsewhere who believe we're being led up the garden path every window, is again a bit deluded the gameiro and gervihno bids might have been real, maybe they thought they'd get one of those two players by bidding quickly and low, i accept that might have been their goal to spend money and virtually guarantee increased sell-on value...however in the harsh reality of the world transfer market that strategy was pretty insane wouldn't you say? just to reiterate, as you appear to have let it slip your mind; we needed another striker in january and we sold carroll for 35m, we went into the summer needing 2 top class strikers and we got one free transfer, who looks like he might be decent, but as yet has done very little in our shirt i'm batshit insane yeah I think perhaps OM's long battle with Leazes has made him just as dogmatic and inflexible in the face of contrary evidence that he is beginning to resemble his former nemesis. Like Dr Manhattan having a sulk on Mars tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Ozzie still sucking off ashley blah blah blah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teohgk Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 rumour of Pardew quitting flying around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 rumour of Pardew quitting flying around Fishing trip on another forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 rumour of Pardew quitting flying around Twitter? After the Whitley Bay match on Saturday there were rumours in a few pubs Steve Bruce had packed it in as well, can imagine they're the kind of rumours that quickly get legs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 lee_ryder Lee Ryder #nufc Few people asking if Pardew has walked but he's still very much the manager 3 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 No chance Pardew would quit. He's lucky to be manager here after stints at West Ham, Charlton and Southampton. He knows he's got it good even though he has minimal transfer funds to work with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/09/05/alan-pardew-tries-to-dispel-gloom-around-nufc-72703-29363648/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Alan Pardew tries to dispel gloom around NUFC by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle Sep 5 2011 ALAN PARDEW acted quickly in the aftermath of Newcastle United’s deadline-day disappointment by banning talk among his players of what might have been in the transfer window. The atmosphere on the shop floor was thought to be gloomy on Thursday morning when United emerged empty-handed in their bid for a striker, with the mood echoing the feelings of fans, who are also frustrated at the lack of a new face on the striker front. Pardew, though, did not want the negativity to gather momentum within the four walls of his locker room following Newcastle’s best start to a campaign since 1995/96. The United gaffer was as hurt as anybody by the Magpies’ failure to lure a new striker, but is expected to keep his counsel until later this week with more feedback from the boardroom expected to come out into the public domain following Friday’s brief explanation. Pardew had said before the window closed: “My job is to put options in front of the board who I think will take us forward. “Then it is a matter for the people who do the finance to get them here. “I’m not involved in that.” The Chronicle understands that there was an air of despondency at the club’s Benton base following the Magpies’ failure to land a new No 9 last week, but the situation was quickly rectified. Pardew is understood to be “devastated” by United’s lack of progress in the window on the centre-forward front but, despite his disappointment, the Toon boss quickly demonstrated his man-management abilities by reminding his troops of their responsibility to the fans, and that there was precious little the players could do about boardroom matters. Pardew and his backroom team were rewarded with a sprightly training session on Thursday, with a siege mentality set to drive the Magpies forward between now and January. Pardew will not walk away from his post and is not a quitter. However, he has made it clear in no uncertain terms to his board that he was furious that United did not get the striker they wanted before the window slammed shut. It is believed that all of Pardew’s striker targets towards the end of the deadline were based on the Continent, and that Modibo Maiga of Sochaux had made it clear he wanted to join Newcastle to his employers before the French club pulled the plug on the deal. Meanwhile, Davide Santon is expected to make his debut at Queens Park Rangers next week. The player is on international duty and due to face Hungary for the Italian Under-21s tomorrow in Szekesfehervar in the Magyar countryside. Santon could face new colleague Tamas Kadar in the Under-21 clash. Neither Tim Krul nor Yohan Cabaye played for their countries Holland or France over the first phase of the international break in games against San Marino, when the Dutch won 11-0, and Albania, where the French won 2-1. Holland and France face Finland and Romania respectively tomorrow. Cheick Tiote played for the Ivory Coast against Rwanda in what was the Elephants’ only game of the international break. Jonas Gutierrez played for Venezuela in Argentina’s 1-0 win in Calcutta and now faces a game in Bangladesh against Nigeria tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 If he ever left I bet the next manager is French. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/09/05/alan-pardew-tries-to-dispel-gloom-around-nufc-72703-29363648/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Alan Pardew tries to dispel gloom around NUFC by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle Sep 5 2011 ALAN PARDEW acted quickly in the aftermath of Newcastle United’s deadline-day disappointment by banning talk among his players of what might have been in the transfer window. The atmosphere on the shop floor was thought to be gloomy on Thursday morning when United emerged empty-handed in their bid for a striker, with the mood echoing the feelings of fans, who are also frustrated at the lack of a new face on the striker front. Pardew, though, did not want the negativity to gather momentum within the four walls of his locker room following Newcastle’s best start to a campaign since 1995/96. The United gaffer was as hurt as anybody by the Magpies’ failure to lure a new striker, but is expected to keep his counsel until later this week with more feedback from the boardroom expected to come out into the public domain following Friday’s brief explanation. Pardew had said before the window closed: “My job is to put options in front of the board who I think will take us forward. “Then it is a matter for the people who do the finance to get them here. “I’m not involved in that.” The Chronicle understands that there was an air of despondency at the club’s Benton base following the Magpies’ failure to land a new No 9 last week, but the situation was quickly rectified. Pardew is understood to be “devastated” by United’s lack of progress in the window on the centre-forward front but, despite his disappointment, the Toon boss quickly demonstrated his man-management abilities by reminding his troops of their responsibility to the fans, and that there was precious little the players could do about boardroom matters. Pardew and his backroom team were rewarded with a sprightly training session on Thursday, with a siege mentality set to drive the Magpies forward between now and January. Pardew will not walk away from his post and is not a quitter. However, he has made it clear in no uncertain terms to his board that he was furious that United did not get the striker they wanted before the window slammed shut. It is believed that all of Pardew’s striker targets towards the end of the deadline were based on the Continent, and that Modibo Maiga of Sochaux had made it clear he wanted to join Newcastle to his employers before the French club pulled the plug on the deal. Meanwhile, Davide Santon is expected to make his debut at Queens Park Rangers next week. The player is on international duty and due to face Hungary for the Italian Under-21s tomorrow in Szekesfehervar in the Magyar countryside. Santon could face new colleague Tamas Kadar in the Under-21 clash. Neither Tim Krul nor Yohan Cabaye played for their countries Holland or France over the first phase of the international break in games against San Marino, when the Dutch won 11-0, and Albania, where the French won 2-1. Holland and France face Finland and Romania respectively tomorrow. Cheick Tiote played for the Ivory Coast against Rwanda in what was the Elephants’ only game of the international break. Jonas Gutierrez played for Venezuela in Argentina’s 1-0 win in Calcutta and now faces a game in Bangladesh against Nigeria tomorrow. WTF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Optimistic Nut Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Least he's got plenty of time to get back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OzzieMandias Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man Your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post that you are quoting. Feel free to explain what you don't understand about the sentence "They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however." i was replying to this as all evidence points to the opposite of what you're saying basically EDIT: what i would say though, in their defence, is that if they could have found another good striker who was cheap or free then they'd have had no hesitation in signing him it's clear to me, as it should now be to everyone, that we will not be spending money over and above what we recoup in fees from sales (unless it's a HBA type signing who is clearly worth more than the fee paid) was it coincidence maiga went on "strike"? personally i don't think so, the only thing preventing his cut price arrival was the reluctance of his club to cave in 2 misconduct allegations in one window, frankly i'm amazed it's so few - it'll become par for the course imo...it's well known ashley likes to throw the rule book away in his business dealings, why would this be different? Well, fine. You carry on believing that we're making player bids for PR reasons alone, and I'll carry on thinking you're two fries short of a Happy Meal. people have already pointed out numerous examples of why you're wrong mate, read the writing, or answer my questions in that last post I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. sorry but what's insane? Read the post you first replied to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 sorry but what's insane? Read the post you first replied to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man Your post doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post that you are quoting. Feel free to explain what you don't understand about the sentence "They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however." i was replying to this as all evidence points to the opposite of what you're saying basically EDIT: what i would say though, in their defence, is that if they could have found another good striker who was cheap or free then they'd have had no hesitation in signing him it's clear to me, as it should now be to everyone, that we will not be spending money over and above what we recoup in fees from sales (unless it's a HBA type signing who is clearly worth more than the fee paid) was it coincidence maiga went on "strike"? personally i don't think so, the only thing preventing his cut price arrival was the reluctance of his club to cave in 2 misconduct allegations in one window, frankly i'm amazed it's so few - it'll become par for the course imo...it's well known ashley likes to throw the rule book away in his business dealings, why would this be different? Well, fine. You carry on believing that we're making player bids for PR reasons alone, and I'll carry on thinking you're two fries short of a Happy Meal. people have already pointed out numerous examples of why you're wrong mate, read the writing, or answer my questions in that last post I put strict limits on the time I spend conversing with people who believe insane things. sorry but what's insane? Read the post you first replied to. I don't think they care that much what people think of them, and certainly not enough to change their business plan and its attendant transfer policy. What would be the point anyway, in these terms, as most of the fans are going to hate them for all eternity on principle whatever they do? The idea that they're constantly bidding for players as some kind of PR exercise or smokescreen for deliberate inactivity is, frankly, nuts. They need to get a lot better at playing their own game, however. my problem with this is we "bid" around the 10m euro mark at the start of the window for 2 strikers, then when that all fell apart none, NONE of our other options were worth paying a similar amount of money for?' the "bids" themselves denote the club realise it was a priority (to the fans) position to sign a player in, so they bid early and go public after that, with 8 months of research behind them, you're telling me seriously they couldn't find and sign a striker for around 10m euros that's really what you think you need help man asssume you mean this, where i've already highlighted the part i was referring to, even though it's pretty obvious the two things are very connected but hey, you've made yourself look an utter twat already numerous times not acknowledging reality so i see no reason why this would be different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Oh dear, I seem to have upset the herd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Oh dear, I seem to have upset the herd. you are NE5 man, you've turned heel this is amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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