womblemaster Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 `I'd love to know what it was that Pards did that made all journalists think he was this arrogant, brash guy with a huge ego.` he was pickingup their gfs in nightclubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'd love to know what it was that Pards did that made all journalists think he was this arrogant, brash guy with a huge ego. They all seem to allude to various incidents, but never really explain why he was so disliked and give a decent reason. I am trying to think back to when he managed Reading and West Ham and I can't recall him being particularly objectionable. Moved to Newcastle and did well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Apparently he stood up at the end of the post match press conference against Arsenal, raised his fists above his head and shouted "YES!!!" That's a tad Partridgesque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He has his moments, like. I'd love to have seen the state he was in after the Sunderland game when he was asked to leave Florita's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He has his moments, like. I'd love to have seen the state he was in after the Sunderland game when he was asked to leave Florita's. What? http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/tellmemore.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Just heard that he was asked to leave Floritas. p*ssed out of his tree. That's basically the extent of it. Had a mate who was in there, text me at 11ish to tell me Pards was there with 2 fellas and a lass and looked completely wasted. Was led out by security less than an hour later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Amazed they would ask Pards to leave like, you would have thought he could do pretty much anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The trouble with Pardew's teams come after a year or so. This is when effects of his management style come about. He produces teams who have an inflated sense of their own greatness and abilities as players. The players then think they only have to turn up on the pitch to win and don't work hard enough. West Ham fans will tell you the same and it happened at Charlton. Seems the total opposite to me, we've gradually improved as a team and I can't remember a Newcastle side working this hard collectively. In addition, Pardew talks a good game and but when things start to go wrong he won't take any responsibility for it. That attitude also rubs off on the players. Again, I just can't agree with that. He seems a very positive man and calls it as it is. Admitted he got it wrong against QPR this season and Stoke and Everton last season. Always praises the players, very rare that he blames someone else, even against Blackburn in the cup, he stopped short of saying we lost because of the ref, like Warnock, AVB or Fergie would. Instead, he just alluded to some poor decisions and the 'breaks' which is a favourite of his, along with f***ing SUPERB Might have jumped the gun, but I think he's won me over! Still room for improvement, but last season and this he's been far better than I originally expected. He's probably changed over time. He admitted himself in one interview he got things wrong in the past and has changed parts of his attitude etc. In his time with us you can hardly fault him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Amazed they would ask Pards to leave like, you would have thought he could do pretty much anything. Especially after beating the mackems away, buy the man a pint ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The trouble with Pardew's teams come after a year or so. This is when effects of his management style come about. He produces teams who have an inflated sense of their own greatness and abilities as players. The players then think they only have to turn up on the pitch to win and don't work hard enough. West Ham fans will tell you the same and it happened at Charlton. Seems the total opposite to me, we've gradually improved as a team and I can't remember a Newcastle side working this hard collectively. In addition, Pardew talks a good game and but when things start to go wrong he won't take any responsibility for it. That attitude also rubs off on the players. Again, I just can't agree with that. He seems a very positive man and calls it as it is. Admitted he got it wrong against QPR this season and Stoke and Everton last season. Always praises the players, very rare that he blames someone else, even against Blackburn in the cup, he stopped short of saying we lost because of the ref, like Warnock, AVB or Fergie would. Instead, he just alluded to some poor decisions and the 'breaks' which is a favourite of his, along with f***ing SUPERB Might have jumped the gun, but I think he's won me over! Still room for improvement, but last season and this he's been far better than I originally expected. He's probably changed over time. He admitted himself in one interview he got things wrong in the past and has changed parts of his attitude etc. In his time with us you can hardly fault him. I have heard him say that, i also heard a good point raised on the guardian football podcast when I used to listen to it, that Pardew has that look of determination back in his eye that he had at West Ham. He knows this is his big chance and he's been humble (yet confident) enough to know that he needs to be at 100% all of the time to make it work and that involves self evaluation. That's in contrast to the likes of Souness and Allardyce who took the big job and thought 'right, i'm here on merit, just need to follow the formula' rather than trying to improve themselves. You can't be involved with a group of players on a day to basis and ask them to keep their standards up and improve if you're not committed to doing it yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He's out to prove a point which is great. When things go wrong I suppose we'll see the true measure of the man, but right now he's doing everything asked of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The trouble with Pardew's teams come after a year or so. This is when effects of his management style come about. He produces teams who have an inflated sense of their own greatness and abilities as players. The players then think they only have to turn up on the pitch to win and don't work hard enough. West Ham fans will tell you the same and it happened at Charlton. Seems the total opposite to me, we've gradually improved as a team and I can't remember a Newcastle side working this hard collectively. In addition, Pardew talks a good game and but when things start to go wrong he won't take any responsibility for it. That attitude also rubs off on the players. Again, I just can't agree with that. He seems a very positive man and calls it as it is. Admitted he got it wrong against QPR this season and Stoke and Everton last season. Always praises the players, very rare that he blames someone else, even against Blackburn in the cup, he stopped short of saying we lost because of the ref, like Warnock, AVB or Fergie would. Instead, he just alluded to some poor decisions and the 'breaks' which is a favourite of his, along with f***ing SUPERB Might have jumped the gun, but I think he's won me over! Still room for improvement, but last season and this he's been far better than I originally expected. He's probably changed over time. He admitted himself in one interview he got things wrong in the past and has changed parts of his attitude etc. In his time with us you can hardly fault him. I have heard him say that, i also heard a good point raised on the guardian football podcast when I used to listen to it, that Pardew has that look of determination back in his eye that he had at West Ham. He knows this is his big chance and he's been humble (yet confident) enough to know that he needs to be at 100% all of the time to make it work and that involves self evaluation. That's in contrast to the likes of Souness and Allardyce who took the big job and thought 'right, i'm here on merit, just need to follow the formula' rather than trying to improve themselves. You can't be involved with a group of players on a day to basis and ask them to keep their standards up and improve if you're not committed to doing it yourself. Very good post. Self honesty and self evaluation are 2 key attributes of a good manager in any walk of life. If you talk about being the dog's bollocks, then you need to damn well show it, otherwise losing credibility and hence leadership of the team around you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Went on a stadium tour yesterday. The tour guide fella was raving about Pardew and how he takes time to speak to everyone, and just how much preparation he puts into every game. He said the general feeling around the ground among the non playing staff of St James' was that he's the best manager since Sir Bobby by far (not taking into account results, just simply his involvement in everything). Which guy took you round? Was he an incredibly knowledgeable old bloke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes, but can't remember his name. The guy who did mine was called Dennis, he was class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes, but can't remember his name. The guy who did mine was called Dennis, he was class. Was he small, ugly and had a Nufc strip with 'Kee-gone' on the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Went on a stadium tour yesterday. The tour guide fella was raving about Pardew and how he takes time to speak to everyone, and just how much preparation he puts into every game. He said the general feeling around the ground among the non playing staff of St James' was that he's the best manager since Sir Bobby by far (not taking into account results, just simply his involvement in everything). Which guy took you round? Was he an incredibly knowledgeable old bloke? Brian? Was top class back in '07. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes, but can't remember his name. The guy who did mine was called Dennis, he was class. I've had a tour from Dennis too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Went on a stadium tour yesterday. The tour guide fella was raving about Pardew and how he takes time to speak to everyone, and just how much preparation he puts into every game. He said the general feeling around the ground among the non playing staff of St James' was that he's the best manager since Sir Bobby by far (not taking into account results, just simply his involvement in everything). Great to hear that. Hope he'll stay here at least as long as Ashley is here. By far the best manager Ashley could get at the moment imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I'm always encouraged by tales like this. It genuinely sounds like Pardew is working his socks off to do the best possible job. In the recent age, I can only think of KK and SBR who struck me as equally committed to the cause. We've had too many journeymen managers in the dugout who have always given me the impression that they thought it was just another job. Dalglish struck me for example as never really being into the club. Souness and Roeder probably knew that they were never going to succeed and Fat Sam never had a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Yes, but can't remember his name. The guy who did mine was called Dennis, he was class. I've had a tour from Dennis too! I did the stadium tour a few years back. An old guy called Alan was the guide - he was mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I did a stadium tour a couple of seasons ago during our horrible period of instability/relegation - the woman was basically making excuses for how shite we were, and the tactics board in the changing room had stuff like Smith marking Modric. It wasn't a good time to do a tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I did a stadium tour a couple of seasons ago during our horrible period of instability/relegation - the woman was basically making excuses for how s**** we were, and the tactics board in the changing room had stuff like Smith marking Modric. It wasn't a good time to do a tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I did a stadium tour a couple of seasons ago during our horrible period of instability/relegation - the woman was basically making excuses for how s**** we were, and the tactics board in the changing room had stuff like Smith marking Modric. It wasn't a good time to do a tour. And all the shirts we had photos taken next to belonged to players that fucked off a couple of months later. I'll always treasure my pic next to Martins'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I did a stadium tour a couple of seasons ago during our horrible period of instability/relegation - the woman was basically making excuses for how s**** we were, and the tactics board in the changing room had stuff like Smith marking Modric. It wasn't a good time to do a tour. Sounded like a great experience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken of his respect for Alan Pardew, as the Newcastle boss prepares to bring his side to Old Trafford on Saturday. The Magpies have performed above expectations so far this season, sitting fourth in the Premier League having suffered only one defeat, in their most recent game against Manchester City, and the Red Devils coach believes Pardew deserves praise for his achievements. “I’ve always respected Alan Pardew, I’ve always rated him,” Ferguson told his club’s official website. “I think he was unfairly treated at West Ham and at Southampton, it was ridiculous actually. He took West Ham to the FA Cup final and was one minute away from winning the cup. He was so unlucky.” Pardew was sacked from his job at Upton Park in 2006 after losing on penalties in the cup final, and then went on to win the Football League Trophy with Southampton in 2009-10 before being ousted shortly afterwards. The 50-year-old took the reins at Newcastle after the departure of Chris Hughton in December 2010. “Alan’s done a great job at Newcastle,” Ferguson continued. “He’s galvanised them and got them fighting for each other. “I watched their recent 2-2 draw at home to Tottenham and it was a great game, end to end, with both teams trying to win. There was a really good attitude among both sets of players. They were fighting for every ball. “When you’ve got a Newcastle team doing that, with their great support behind them, you know you’re going to get a difficult game.” Despite his admiration for Pardew, the Scottish manager will be hoping for a repeat of the last time the two coaches went head-to-head, in which Pardew’s Charlton side lost 2-0 to United in February 2007. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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