Guest Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We've dropped 2 points at home this season to a team we'd expect a guaranteed 3 points. Compare that to last season. Ridiculous comments from some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We've dropped 2 points at home this season to a team we'd expect a guaranteed 3 points. Compare that to last season. Ridiculous comments from some people. I understand dropping points is part and parcel of football. Its more the manner of it and how Pardew 'changed' the game or rather failed to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm more than pleased with 6th place at this stage of the season. Thanks Pards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 We've dropped 2 points at home this season to a team we'd expect a guaranteed 3 points. Compare that to last season. Ridiculous comments from some people. I understand dropping points is part and parcel of football. It;s more the manner of it and how Pardew 'changed' the game. Without a doubt the subs were shocking. The way we played though, particularly first-half, was top notch imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Plenty of people defended his sacking on the basis of results. I can only hope they'll be of the same opinion about Pardew after today, because that was a dreadful result, all his fault, and doing otherwise will only expose their hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Please let's not do this Let's talk about Ashley, about Keegan, about Shepherd? Anything but this tedious roundabout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Plenty of people defended his sacking on the basis of results. I can only hope they'll be of the same opinion about Pardew after today, because that was a dreadful result, all his fault, and doing otherwise will only expose their hypocrisy. We're 6th in the smegging league man Wullie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Can someone explain to me how the last two results are any different to the results against newly promoted sides that supposedly cost Chris Hughton his job? Thought Pardew was brought in solely to stop this sort of thing happening? Shush, not allowed to say that. We're a much better footballing team now and have given everyone a game this season bar perhaps Norwich. I don't know if I can post this but look at the results Hughton had since the start of the season. http://nufc.com/html/2010-11html/fixtures.html Do you think great wins akin to those against, Villa, Sunderland and Arsenal would be more likely to continue as the season went on, or the ones where we lost to Blackpool, Stoke at home, hammered off Bolton etc? Fact is Hughtons games in charge there resembles a newly promoted side that pulls out great wins every now and again, but doesn't do it consistently and ends up dropping down the table. See Blackpool and Hull for examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Please let's not do this Let's talk about Ashley, about Keegan, about Shepherd? Anything but this tedious roundabout. Now your fucking talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 http://empireofthesenseless.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/kittens1.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Please let's not do this Let's talk about Ashley, about Keegan, about Shepherd? Anything but this tedious roundabout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Probably wrong to be too critical but i think he has got it wrong the last two games in preferring sammy to hatem. Unless Ben Arfa has done something behind the scenes but then he should'nt be on the bench if he has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Can someone explain to me how the last two results are any different to the results against newly promoted sides that supposedly cost Chris Hughton his job? Thought Pardew was brought in solely to stop this sort of thing happening? Shush, not allowed to say that. :facepalm: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Plenty of people defended his sacking on the basis of results. I can only hope they'll be of the same opinion about Pardew after today, because that was a dreadful result, all his fault, and doing otherwise will only expose their hypocrisy. We're 6th in the smegging league man Wullie. Where were we when Hughton got the bullet? 9th maybe? I don't think Pardew deserves the sack but I didn't think Hughton did either, that's the point, unlike plenty who were jumping through hoops to see the back of a bloke doing a marvellous job. He needs six points from the next two though because the last two results are piss poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Plenty of people defended his sacking on the basis of results. I can only hope they'll be of the same opinion about Pardew after today, because that was a dreadful result, all his fault, and doing otherwise will only expose their hypocrisy. We're 6th in the smegging league man Wullie. Where were we when Hughton got the bullet? 9th maybe? I don't think Pardew deserves the sack but I didn't think Hughton did either, that's the point, unlike plenty who were jumping through hoops to see the back of a bloke doing a marvellous job. He needs six points from the next two though because the last two results are p*ss poor. 11th and closer to a relegation battle than now that's for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wouldn't say there was plenty like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wouldn't say there was plenty like. Aye, in fairness I can't remember too many people being thrilled at his sacking, which as others have pointed out, was not result-related anyway IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Plenty of people defended his sacking on the basis of results. I can only hope they'll be of the same opinion about Pardew after today, because that was a dreadful result, all his fault, and doing otherwise will only expose their hypocrisy. Against a side with the worst away record in the whole league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Probably wrong to be too critical but i think he has got it wrong the last two games in preferring sammy to hatem. Unless Ben Arfa has done something behind the scenes but then he should'nt be on the bench if he has. This behind the scenes thing doesn't make sense or why put him on the bench? It's not like we didn't have the CM cover today to change it and play shorter and through the middle when lumping a lot of balls into the area wasn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Find it laughable anyone even debating sacking Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 After 50 minutes it was absolutely obvious that we needed a door opener on the pitch. His subs were fucking woeful. Think Sammy must be sucking AP off. Either that or giving him a go on his lass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Find it laughable anyone even debating sacking Pardew. Luckily nobody is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I wouldn't say there was plenty like. Aye, in fairness I can't remember too many people being thrilled at his sacking, which as others have pointed out, was not result-related anyway IMO. It was more people twisting history after the event that was the issue - trying to justify why they'd seen the back of him. Only a fairly small portion agreed with the decision at the time, it's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 People who think Pardew is any good need to explain what he's good at. Does he bring in players? We are told that Carr scouts abroad and Pardew wanted Obertan so it's a minus so far with that one. He seems to be decent at man-managing his favoured players so that's a plus. He doesn't seem able to change games too often with his substitution and when he does make changes they are usually late and create havoc amongst our own players as we lose any shape we've had. What is he good at? As far as todays team goes, he got 9 or 10 players right and they probably picked themselves so he did nothing exceptional with picking the team and I think an injury to Ryan Taylor forced his hand a little. The only decisions after that were who to bring on and when and I think he got that wrong. We were playing against a team who were threatening nothing and they looked as if they were more interested in keeping us to 0 than trying to score a goal. We were playing balls into the middle in the air and they defended them easily so our first change was to take an ineffective Best off and replace him like for like, with an ineffective Shola. Why didn’t we try to do something different and either bring on Vuckic or Ben Arfa who would have tried to do something other than hoofing the ball into the Swansea box? The only two people who looked like they might get something for us were Ba who was making chances from nothing, and Coloccini who looked like he might get something from a corner. It's not as if we were battering them, we were just hoying the ball in and hoping that something might drop to us. If something isn’t working then it’s up to us to change what we’re doing and we didn’t, we were clueless and it wasn’t because we didn’t have other options, it was because we didn’t bother to use them. Even when we did make changes it was far too late to change the way that we were playing and virtually every person beside me was calling for changes long before the ditherer made them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Find it laughable anyone even debating sacking Pardew. Luckily nobody is. Laughable that people are comparing this situation to the Hughton one then, given that we're currently 6th only a couple of points off 5th, compared to 11th when we were by no means guaranteed of staying up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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