Alan Pardew

[Cajun]

It's my 'nam.

[Mick]

 

 

Just for arguments sake as none of us have a clue what is going on but he could had a twinge or felt a bit uneasy about something since those games

 

Sure I read someone say today that Pardew was going on about having to take it easy with HBA, we don't know how he is feeling after these games. I know my ankle still plays up from time to time now.

 

If he's not fit to take any part in games then don't put him on the bench.  I would understand if the cold is getting to a joint injury but that's not what he had.  I've had a few broken bones playing football and haven't felt them since they healed, the only thing I ever feel is an old knuckle injury.

[80]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

[Hughesy]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

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Bugger, ignore this edit.

[80]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

Aye but not the 'lets get groovy' triple whammy, which I assume is what we're talking about*. A 67th, a 75th and a 92nd combo doesn't count.

 

*It might have happened once among those games, can't say I've checked specifically.

[womblemaster]

starting to hate this bloke tbh. got it all wrong yesterday imo. No real plan of attack. Poor strategy lost us points=managers fault.

[ponsaelius]

[Sifu]

Howay man, "hate" is a pretty strong word.....

[DubblyDubblyDubbly]

Yep. We have the players, but not the results. 

 

[80]

On a pure personality level, I think a lot of people have never taken to the bloke and/or have never forgiven him for his part in Hughton's ousting/Ashley's overall scheme. As such this is why they're picking up on relatively small things and using it to justify statements like 'fast running out of patience' and 'getting pissed off' when overall we've had a stonking run of success (on paper), the sort that would normally get someone a bit more slack. He lacks good will. This is the flipside of people like Ronaldo appreciating his grooming and wanting people to think they share habits.

 

For me, I've never liked him and am unable to warm to him. Doesn't come into my judgement of his decisions here, though. I've voted 'brilliant' on this thread, and I'm not planning on changing it just yet. My thinking's generally along the lines of Mick's, but I still think some of the things some people are saying against him are loony. Would rather they just said 'don't like him, never will', if they haven't literally only just noticed after a dodgy result against a not-to-shit Swansea side during a massive injury crisis that we're strategically inflexible. It shouldn't have been so hard to spot, and if it was, then Pardew would deserve a bit of time to identify it and (more importantly) do something about it before calling him a knacker.

[Hughesy]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

Aye but not the 'lets get groovy' triple whammy, which I assume is what we're talking about*. A 67th, a 75th and a 92nd combo doesn't count.

 

*It might have happened once among those games, can't say I've checked specifically.

 

Those all were triple whammy substitutions.  Rather embarrassingly - I actually checked the matches.

[colinmk]

On a pure personality level, I think a lot of people have never taken to the bloke and/or have never forgiven him for his part in Hughton's ousting/Ashley's overall scheme. As such this is why they're picking up on relatively small things and using it to justify statements like 'fast running out of patience' and 'getting pissed off' when overall we've had a stonking run of success (on paper), the sort that would normally get someone a bit more slack. He lacks good will. This is the flipside of people like Ronaldo appreciating his grooming and wanting people to think they share habits.

 

For me, I've never liked him and am unable to warm to him. Doesn't come into my judgement of his decisions here, though. I've voted 'brilliant' on this thread, and I'm not planning on changing it just yet. My thinking's generally along the lines of Mick's, but I still think some of the things some people are saying against him are loony. Would rather they just said 'don't like him, never will', if they haven't literally only just noticed after a dodgy result against a not-to-shit Swansea side during a massive injury crisis that we're strategically inflexible. It shouldn't have been so hard to spot, and if it was, then Pardew would deserve a bit of time to identify it and (more importantly) do something about it before calling him a knacker.

 

I'm the same, don't like him and never will. He's done a fantastic job so far.

[TherealnorthernTOON]

We really suffer from only having one forward doing the finishing. And wingplay beeing abit meh. Seems like we can only have one half decent winger at a time. When jones is good, obertan is shit and vica versa.

[ponsaelius]

On a pure personality level, I think a lot of people have never taken to the bloke and/or have never forgiven him for his part in Hughton's ousting/Ashley's overall scheme. As such this is why they're picking up on relatively small things and using it to justify statements like 'fast running out of patience' and 'getting pissed off' when overall we've had a stonking run of success (on paper), the sort that would normally get someone a bit more slack. He lacks good will. This is the flipside of people like Ronaldo appreciating his grooming and wanting people to think they share habits.

 

For me, I've never liked him and am unable to warm to him. Doesn't come into my judgement of his decisions here, though. I've voted 'brilliant' on this thread, and I'm not planning on changing it just yet. My thinking's generally along the lines of Mick's, but I still think some of the things some people are saying against him are loony. Would rather they just said 'don't like him, never will', if they haven't literally only just noticed after a dodgy result against a not-to-shit Swansea side during a massive injury crisis that we're strategically inflexible. It shouldn't have been so hard to spot, and if it was, then Pardew would deserve a bit of time to identify it and (more importantly) do something about it before calling him a knacker.

 

don't like him and never will.

 

What if he won us the Champions League and solved world hunger?

[Mick]

 

 

What if he won us the Champions League and solved world hunger?

 

I'd drink my own piss. 

[Paully]

Canny read in the new true faith - A 10 page article where Michael Martin as well as Mark Jenson were invited to spend a full day at the training ground and chin-wag with the players as well as Pardew and his coaching team.

 

Carver created a DVD for the bus journey to Sunlund which featured all of our goals against them in recent times 

[80]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

Aye but not the 'lets get groovy' triple whammy, which I assume is what we're talking about*. A 67th, a 75th and a 92nd combo doesn't count.

 

*It might have happened once among those games, can't say I've checked specifically.

 

Those all were triple whammy substitutions.  Rather embarrassingly - I actually checked the matches.

 

Where can I check? Genuinely interested to see.

[80]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

Aye but not the 'lets get groovy' triple whammy, which I assume is what we're talking about*. A 67th, a 75th and a 92nd combo doesn't count.

 

*It might have happened once among those games, can't say I've checked specifically.

 

Those all were triple whammy substitutions.  Rather embarrassingly - I actually checked the matches.

 

Where can I check? Genuinely interested to see.

 

Fair play. I'll be pedantic and point out Portsmouth was actually two substitution phases 1 minute apart, but still. Four or five is a good couple more than I was expecting.

[Beren]

On a pure personality level, I think a lot of people have never taken to the bloke and/or have never forgiven him for his part in Hughton's ousting/Ashley's overall scheme. As such this is why they're picking up on relatively small things and using it to justify statements like 'fast running out of patience' and 'getting pissed off' when overall we've had a stonking run of success (on paper), the sort that would normally get someone a bit more slack. He lacks good will. This is the flipside of people like Ronaldo appreciating his grooming and wanting people to think they share habits.

 

For me, I've never liked him and am unable to warm to him. Doesn't come into my judgement of his decisions here, though. I've voted 'brilliant' on this thread, and I'm not planning on changing it just yet. My thinking's generally along the lines of Mick's, but I still think some of the things some people are saying against him are loony. Would rather they just said 'don't like him, never will', if they haven't literally only just noticed after a dodgy result against a not-to-shit Swansea side during a massive injury crisis that we're strategically inflexible. It shouldn't have been so hard to spot, and if it was, then Pardew would deserve a bit of time to identify it and (more importantly) do something about it before calling him a knacker.

 

Top stuff as per.

[Hughesy]

I don't remember a manager we have ever been happy with when it comes to subs, even SBR used to get a lot of stick for it.

 

He used to love the triple substitution.  And it worked once from my memory when Stephen Glass scored vs Man Utd in 2000.  After a Lua-Lua miskick.

 

Bit of a fantasy that. It was true in his early days but simmered down a lot after the first few weeks of that 2000/01 season with Cordone and co. Once we had a good and settled team (Bellamy/Robert onwards), it was pretty rare. Perhaps too rare.

 

In 2003/04:

 

He did 3 substitutions against Man United, Birmingham City, Portsmouth, Fulham and Bolton.  That's still quite frequent!

 

Aye but not the 'lets get groovy' triple whammy, which I assume is what we're talking about*. A 67th, a 75th and a 92nd combo doesn't count.

 

*It might have happened once among those games, can't say I've checked specifically.

 

Those all were triple whammy substitutions.  Rather embarrassingly - I actually checked the matches.

 

Where can I check? Genuinely interested to see.

 

Fair play. I'll be pedantic and point out Portsmouth was actually two substitution phases 1 minute apart, but still. Four or five is a good couple more than I was expecting.

 

Just trawled through nufc.com match reports!  Looks like the year before was less though - think it is only 3 or 4 occasions.

 

Even I was surprised about the number of time Robson made 3 subs in the entire game (not of the triple whammy type) - certainly liked to utilise the bench.

[Dave]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/19/pardew-looking-to-delay-african-nations-cup-departures-72703-29979323/

ALAN Pardew will attempt to delay Cheick Tiote and Demba Ba from heading to the African Cup of Nations.

The duo are expected to link up with Senegal and the Ivory Coast at the start of January.

But Pardew will look to prevent their link up until January 15.

The tournament takes place in Guinea and Gabon and players could me missing until mid-February.

Man City have halted Kolo and YaYa Toure's involvement in the tournament.

Pardew said: "We will go along with that

"It's important to keep players until January 15.

"The scheduling isn't great but we aren't going to moan, we knew about it."

 

[Beren]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/19/pardew-looking-to-delay-african-nations-cup-departures-72703-29979323/

ALAN Pardew will attempt to delay Cheick Tiote and Demba Ba from heading to the African Cup of Nations.

The duo are expected to link up with Senegal and the Ivory Coast at the start of January.

But Pardew will look to prevent their link up until January 15.

The tournament takes place in Guinea and Gabon and players could me missing until mid-February.

Man City have halted Kolo and YaYa Toure's involvement in the tournament.

Pardew said: "We will go along with that

"It's important to keep players until January 15.

"The scheduling isn't great but we aren't going to moan, we knew about it."

 

 

I read that and thought they meant he was hiding their passports or something

[Sifu]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/19/pardew-looking-to-delay-african-nations-cup-departures-72703-29979323/

ALAN Pardew will attempt to delay Cheick Tiote and Demba Ba from heading to the African Cup of Nations.

The duo are expected to link up with Senegal and the Ivory Coast at the start of January.

But Pardew will look to prevent their link up until January 15.

The tournament takes place in Guinea and Gabon and players could me missing until mid-February.

Man City have halted Kolo and YaYa Toure's involvement in the tournament.

Pardew said: "We will go along with that

"It's important to keep players until January 15.

"The scheduling isn't great but we aren't going to moan, we knew about it."

 

 

 

Hope this happens.

 

 

I read that and thought they meant he was hiding their passports or something

 

That would be a brilliant idea actually

[Beren]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news//tm_headline=hatem-ben-arfa-ready-for-west-brom-clash%26method=full%26objectid=29976392%26siteid=72703-name_page.html

 

Just read Pardews comments on why others came on ahead of HBA. Thought I was reading Steve Kean comments for a moment there. Really poor train of thought/rationalisation. It's not like HBA can win penalties running at players down the flanks or anything, is it? As for no pockets of space, you need players like HBA to create space. If you can't bring on HBA against a team sitting deep, what is his "type of game"? In an open, end-to-end contest where he'd be tracking back? Or when we're camped in our own half? Doesn't seem to realise he was wrong or take ownership of his mistake either. Really poor form IMO.

[Minhosa]

On a pure personality level, I think a lot of people have never taken to the bloke and/or have never forgiven him for his part in Hughton's ousting/Ashley's overall scheme. As such this is why they're picking up on relatively small things and using it to justify statements like 'fast running out of patience' and 'getting pissed off' when overall we've had a stonking run of success (on paper), the sort that would normally get someone a bit more slack. He lacks good will. This is the flipside of people like Ronaldo appreciating his grooming and wanting people to think they share habits.

 

For me, I've never liked him and am unable to warm to him. Doesn't come into my judgement of his decisions here, though. I've voted 'brilliant' on this thread, and I'm not planning on changing it just yet. My thinking's generally along the lines of Mick's, but I still think some of the things some people are saying against him are loony. Would rather they just said 'don't like him, never will', if they haven't literally only just noticed after a dodgy result against a not-to-shit Swansea side during a massive injury crisis that we're strategically inflexible. It shouldn't have been so hard to spot, and if it was, then Pardew would deserve a bit of time to identify it and (more importantly) do something about it before calling him a knacker.

 

That's a cracking post and I'm very much in the 'never going to warm to him' camp.

 

You live by the sword, you die by the sword so getting into bed with Ashley and Co. means all bets are off in terms of cutting him slack around a small squad, players being sold over his head etc etc.

 

He knew what he was getting when he signed on the dotted line one year ago and for me he'll always get less patience than a random appointment simply because he knew exactly what he was in for and has stated many times that he's happy to work within the regime and that closeness to the regime will always count against him when the shit hits the fans in the eyes of quite a few fans I would think.

 

Before everyone (Ian W) starts with the 'rather have an Ashley man than anyone else, better for the club etc etc', my view is that regardless of Manager the overall strategy would be the same, so the only advantage of Pardew is his ability to calm things through his media savvy - which, in my mind, is Dekka's job anyway.