Guest johnson293 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think we need a new poll now that more of Pardew's lies have been revealed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew may be telling the truth, fits in with Carroll's statement as well. Too many people looking for a reason to blame Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think we need a new poll now that more of Pardew's lies have been revealed. http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/97/lolqueow3.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew may be telling the truth, fits in with Carroll's statement as well. Too many people looking for a reason to blame Ashley. It fits far too well with Ashley's earlier behaviour to not blame him. He always sells the best players towards the end of the transfer window, failing to replace them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew may be telling the truth, fits in with Carroll's statement as well. Too many people looking for a reason to blame Ashley. It fits far too well with Ashley's earlier behaviour to not blame him. He always sells the best players towards the end of the transfer window, failing to replace them. Apart from Milner I'm struggling. Even then he probably wasn't one of our better players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I trust Pardew on this, and if what he says is true, then the club have acted the way I would expect them to. Sorry Andy, you can't expect to get a new contract when you've just signed a five year deal three months ago. Now go and batter someone and get locked up you greedy cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheSummerOf69 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Trust Pardew? Is this the same sweet innocent that knew 'absolutely nothing at all, honest guv' about nicking Hughton's job while his odds were inexplicably (then, anyway) tumbling at the bookies, who's only on very occasional nodding terms with Lambias from the charidee do's he goes to, and who won't sell Carroll for any amount? Or is it the lying devious bugger with a terrible reputation from his previous clubs? I trusted Keegan. I trusted Bobby. I even trusted Gullit as an honourable man, despite him fecking up - he never took a penny in compensation out of the club. I trusted Hughton. I don't trust this slimy wideboy - for the simple reason, every time he opens his mouth a load of b*llsh*t comes out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew. Is this the same sweet innocent that knew 'absolutely nothing at all, honest guv' about nicking Hughton's job while his odds were inexplicably (then, anyway) tumbling at the bookies, who's only on very occasional nodding terms with Lambias from the charidee do's he goes to, and who won't sell Carroll for any amount? Or is it the lying devious bugger with a terrible reputation from his previous clubs? The guy with no experience of managing a big club, no right to be considered an option for our job - but odds on favourite from the minute CH was fired. Yep, that's the fella. Lovely bloke, I believe everything he says - there's no question of his honesty. No, No, No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I believe everything Pardew's saying. The only doubts i have is about the last bit, about it all going back into the club. The only way we'll know that for certain is if we spend £35m in the summer. I get the feeling it's going to be a tedious, tedious summer. we'd have to spend at least 50 million to make this worthwhile imo, unless you'd have been happy with a net spend of nowt in the summer with carroll still here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Has he had his pre match press conference yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew two words sum him up, hopeless and helpless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew two words sum him up, hopeless and helpless. Not 'yes' and 'man'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I would imagine even if we spent all £35million, quite a lot of that will be set aside for wages and signing on fees etc. Although with the new low wage structure and the Sky tv money we shouldn't really need to factor that in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So club line.. he wanted more money to match what Liverpool offered him we said no so he handed in a transfer request.. kind of fits with Carroill's they kind of pushed me out bollocks. What offer from liverpool? They shouldn't have been in a position to offer Carroll anything if we had n't accepted an offer from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 So club line.. he wanted more money to match what Liverpool offered him we said no so he handed in a transfer request.. kind of fits with Carroill's they kind of pushed me out bollocks. What offer from liverpool? They shouldn't have been in a position to offer Carroll anything if we had n't accepted an offer from them. They can offer his agent whatever they want, with or without permission, agent then speaks to his client. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 All this "he lied" "no he lied" stuff is a load of shite to be honest. BOTH parties are equally to blame. The club could have turned down both the bid and the transfer request. But Carroll, who says he loves the club blah blah blah, DID NOT have to hand in a transfer request. Both are shithouses in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Hmm. 'All money will be used' according to Pardew on SSN right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 At least we're playing it all out in public again. Oh how I miss the muted comments of clipboard Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I fail to see how anyone can blame Pardew in all of this. Of course he didn't want him to leave. Of course he wanted to get a replacement. Problem is, when things are dictated by either a dodgy owner or a greedy player, the manager has very little say. To say he is a liar is flipping ridiculous! Keegan had the same done to him over Milner - repeatedly claimed he wasn't for sale days/hours before his £12m move to Villa. Then, he came out and said it was his decision to sell him. Was KK lying too? and if he was, which bit? the not for sale, or it being his decision? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 From twitter of press conference - Alan Pardew - My take: when I 1st heard bid from Lpool at 8, my advice was to turn down. Reaction space was too small. at first MA and DL agreed with that. We'll miss him as player & character. Some of the things he's saying are misguided we didn't force him onto the helicopter. power shifted when he said he wanted to negotiate contract now, not the summer. we have got an extraordinary figure. If Andy wanted to stay, he could have. Fact is he isn't here. what are we going to do between now & end of season? We - as a group - need to answer it emphatically we made couple of bids last night: extortionate prices quoted as I sit here now I'm weaker. Am I comfortable? It is what it is. Carroll 4-5 weeks away from fitness. Nothing was said to him about forcing him out... Got to build club with sustainable future.. It's not just about AC. If we gave him a new contract, where does it end? Got to draw a line We never tried to sell him. Never. I was involved in decision process - but decision was a balanced one. Wanted him to stay - didn't want media scrum but events took over, we'll use the money to buy '2 or 3' mood here is not great. We've lost a friend & a good player. There's disillusionment in everyone here - you can't hide that. there's a streak in us that wants to show we can cope without him. Ireland back in 2 weeks - deal makes sure he's fit to play. We hope to bring him back to his best - somebody I feel needs his confidence rebuilding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 From twitter of press conference - Alan Pardew - My take: when I 1st heard bid from Lpool at 8, my advice was to turn down. Reaction space was too small. at first MA and DL agreed with that. We'll miss him as player & character. Some of the things he's saying are misguided we didn't force him onto the helicopter. power shifted when he said he wanted to negotiate contract now, not the summer. we have got an extraordinary figure. If Andy wanted to stay, he could have. Fact is he isn't here. what are we going to do between now & end of season? We - as a group - need to answer it emphatically we made couple of bids last night: extortionate prices quoted as I sit here now I'm weaker. Am I comfortable? It is what it is. Carroll 4-5 weeks away from fitness. Nothing was said to him about forcing him out... Got to build club with sustainable future.. It's not just about AC. If we gave him a new contract, where does it end? Got to draw a line We never tried to sell him. Never. I was involved in decision process - but decision was a balanced one. Wanted him to stay - didn't want media scrum but events took over, we'll use the money to buy '2 or 3' mood here is not great. We've lost a friend & a good player. There's disillusionment in everyone here - you can't hide that. there's a streak in us that wants to show we can cope without him. Ireland back in 2 weeks - deal makes sure he's fit to play. We hope to bring him back to his best - somebody I feel needs his confidence rebuilding I feel (kind of) sorry for Pardew. He has to get his team motivated to go out and play but also has to deal with a whole load of shit that had very little to do with him and he certainly didn't want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 From twitter of press conference - Alan Pardew - My take: when I 1st heard bid from Lpool at 8, my advice was to turn down. Reaction space was too small. at first MA and DL agreed with that. We'll miss him as player & character. Some of the things he's saying are misguided we didn't force him onto the helicopter. power shifted when he said he wanted to negotiate contract now, not the summer. we have got an extraordinary figure. If Andy wanted to stay, he could have. Fact is he isn't here. what are we going to do between now & end of season? We - as a group - need to answer it emphatically we made couple of bids last night: extortionate prices quoted as I sit here now I'm weaker. Am I comfortable? It is what it is. Carroll 4-5 weeks away from fitness. Nothing was said to him about forcing him out... Got to build club with sustainable future.. It's not just about AC. If we gave him a new contract, where does it end? Got to draw a line We never tried to sell him. Never. I was involved in decision process - but decision was a balanced one. Wanted him to stay - didn't want media scrum but events took over, we'll use the money to buy '2 or 3' mood here is not great. We've lost a friend & a good player. There's disillusionment in everyone here - you can't hide that. there's a streak in us that wants to show we can cope without him. Ireland back in 2 weeks - deal makes sure he's fit to play. We hope to bring him back to his best - somebody I feel needs his confidence rebuilding I feel (kind of) sorry for Pardew. He has to get his team motivated to go out and play but also has to deal with a whole load of shit that had very little to do with him and he certainly didn't want. You get into bed with sharks you get bitten. He knew what he was doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 From twitter of press conference - Alan Pardew - My take: when I 1st heard bid from Lpool at 8, my advice was to turn down. Reaction space was too small. at first MA and DL agreed with that. We'll miss him as player & character. Some of the things he's saying are misguided we didn't force him onto the helicopter. power shifted when he said he wanted to negotiate contract now, not the summer. we have got an extraordinary figure. If Andy wanted to stay, he could have. Fact is he isn't here. what are we going to do between now & end of season? We - as a group - need to answer it emphatically we made couple of bids last night: extortionate prices quoted as I sit here now I'm weaker. Am I comfortable? It is what it is. Carroll 4-5 weeks away from fitness. Nothing was said to him about forcing him out... Got to build club with sustainable future.. It's not just about AC. If we gave him a new contract, where does it end? Got to draw a line We never tried to sell him. Never. I was involved in decision process - but decision was a balanced one. Wanted him to stay - didn't want media scrum but events took over, we'll use the money to buy '2 or 3' mood here is not great. We've lost a friend & a good player. There's disillusionment in everyone here - you can't hide that. there's a streak in us that wants to show we can cope without him. Ireland back in 2 weeks - deal makes sure he's fit to play. We hope to bring him back to his best - somebody I feel needs his confidence rebuilding I feel (kind of) sorry for Pardew. He has to get his team motivated to go out and play but also has to deal with a whole load of shit that had very little to do with him and he certainly didn't want. You get into bed with sharks you get bitten. He knew what he was doing. This, if he came into this job genuinely thinking things would be plain sailing, he's arguably the most naive person in the history of football. Personally...I think they will be fine. I don't see them as being so fragile that the team spirit will disappear over this. But this too. Team spirit is the biggest thing about this team right now, can't see it deteriorating that quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Part of Pardew PC... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9383676.stm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 From twitter of press conference - Alan Pardew - My take: when I 1st heard bid from Lpool at 8, my advice was to turn down. Reaction space was too small. at first MA and DL agreed with that. We'll miss him as player & character. Some of the things he's saying are misguided we didn't force him onto the helicopter. power shifted when he said he wanted to negotiate contract now, not the summer. we have got an extraordinary figure. If Andy wanted to stay, he could have. Fact is he isn't here. what are we going to do between now & end of season? We - as a group - need to answer it emphatically we made couple of bids last night: extortionate prices quoted as I sit here now I'm weaker. Am I comfortable? It is what it is. Carroll 4-5 weeks away from fitness. Nothing was said to him about forcing him out... Got to build club with sustainable future.. It's not just about AC. If we gave him a new contract, where does it end? Got to draw a line We never tried to sell him. Never. I was involved in decision process - but decision was a balanced one. Wanted him to stay - didn't want media scrum but events took over, we'll use the money to buy '2 or 3' mood here is not great. We've lost a friend & a good player. There's disillusionment in everyone here - you can't hide that. there's a streak in us that wants to show we can cope without him. Ireland back in 2 weeks - deal makes sure he's fit to play. We hope to bring him back to his best - somebody I feel needs his confidence rebuilding I feel (kind of) sorry for Pardew. He has to get his team motivated to go out and play but also has to deal with a whole load of shit that had very little to do with him and he certainly didn't want. You get into bed with sharks you get bitten. He knew what he was doing. This, if he came into this job genuinely thinking things would be plain sailing, he's arguably the most naive person in the history of football. Personally...I think they will be fine. I don't see them as being so fragile that the team spirit will disappear over this. But this too. Team spirit is the biggest thing about this team right now, can't see it deteriorating that quickly. He needed a job and he'd have been a mug to pass up this opportunity due to sympathy for anyone else. He's got 35million to play with in the summer unless he's lying. Hardly the worst position to be in as long as we stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts