Guest BooBoo Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Top 10 place is reportedly a minimum requirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 And so it should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CheickMansour Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Top 10 place is reportedly a minimum requirement. Interesting. Source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Carlton Cole and Steve Sidwell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Top 10 place is reportedly a minimum requirement. Interesting. Source? http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/10/only-a-place-in-top-10-will-do-for-newcastle-79310-29025834/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 That's fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Didn't David Craig stipulate that we'd be 'sticking with the new manager through thick and thin' when it was first leaked that Pardew would be signing a 5 and a half year deal? That was supposed to include if we went down; now we're being told it's top ten or bust? Just doesn't add up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I'm guessing the "even through relegation" covered last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 United see squeezing into the top 10 as a vital next step in their aim to be competing for a Europa League place by the end of the 2012/13 season. I can't see why the money brought in from the Carroll sale can't be used to bring this 'aim' forward a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 United see squeezing into the top 10 as a vital next step in their aim to be competing for a Europa League place by the end of the 2012/13 season. I can't see why the money brought in from the Carroll sale can't be used to bring this 'aim' forward a year. They will be, reads to me more that they see a top 10 finish the bare minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 United see squeezing into the top 10 as a vital next step in their aim to be competing for a Europa League place by the end of the 2012/13 season. I can't see why the money brought in from the Carroll sale can't be used to bring this 'aim' forward a year. Where's that quote from, Dave? I think the age of building a team/squad and gradually progressing towards Europe is over, personally. There are so many clubs with supreme spending power that unless unless you can spike up the table with a group of players within a season (or two, if you're very lucky) - your best players will get sniped off your books by the pull of silly wages and European football. Wouldn't be surprised if Spurs, for example, slumped back down to midtable before long having failed to capitalise on their impressive ascent up the table by securing a successive season in the CL. If my theory holds true (and I'm sure many of you disagree that it does!) then I think we're really missing a trick to build quickly and with quality around our promising spine. I think they're (probably) safe this summer, but Colo, Tiote and Ben Arfa next summer will I'm sure be the subject of jealous glances from sides with the resources to prise them from us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Here (the second page): http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/10/only-a-place-in-top-10-will-do-for-newcastle-79310-29025834/ Europa League spot often works its way down to 7th doesn't it? We were 8 points off that this season just gone, and would have been 6 if not for that final day capitulation from 3-0 up at home. It may sound a bit big-headed but with our resources I don't see why we shouldn't be aiming to challenge for a Europa League spot this year tbh. If we were willing to bring in a couple more quality players I think we would do so. In my opinion this requires spending money on transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Why wait for season 2012/13 to be ready for the Europa cup ,imho you qualify and make the signings in the summer to go for it and push on and European football is a good carrot to dangle then what we have to offer now,as Dave says we were 8 points short last season so its achievable .Bollocks to say we are not ready . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Here (the second page): http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/10/only-a-place-in-top-10-will-do-for-newcastle-79310-29025834/ Europa League spot often works its way down to 7th doesn't it? We were 8 points off that this season just gone, and would have been 6 if not for that final day capitulation from 3-0 up at home. It may sound a bit big-headed but with our resources I don't see why we shouldn't be aiming to challenge for a Europa League spot this year tbh. If we were willing to bring in a couple more quality players I think we would do so. In my opinion this requires spending money on transfer fees. A club the size of Newcastle, with 50'000 fans should be challenging for it every year - and qualifying every other year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CheickMansour Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Here (the second page): http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/sport/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/07/10/only-a-place-in-top-10-will-do-for-newcastle-79310-29025834/ Europa League spot often works its way down to 7th doesn't it? We were 8 points off that this season just gone, and would have been 6 if not for that final day capitulation from 3-0 up at home. It may sound a bit big-headed but with our resources I don't see why we shouldn't be aiming to challenge for a Europa League spot this year tbh. If we were willing to bring in a couple more quality players I think we would do so. In my opinion this requires spending money on transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Don't see the difference between saying top ten finish and challenging for Europa League because it's pretty much the same thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Don't see the difference between saying top ten finish and challenging for Europa League because it's pretty much the same thing? Should we try to get away with spending nothing this summer then, considering we really should have finished 9th this season just gone? It's about pushing on and going for the next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 We finished where we did and have since added a striker and winger with at least one more striker to come. I haven't seen our rivals such as Fulham, Everton and Villa strengthen have you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 We finished where we did and have since added a striker and winger with at least one more striker to come. I haven't seen our rivals such as Fulham, Everton and Villa strengthen have you? Why are they the benchmark? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Because they're the teams we'll be competing with for 7th/top ten. Hardly rocket science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Because they're the teams we'll be competing with for 7th/top ten. Hardly rocket science. What I meant was, why limit our progress based on their action/inaction - why not just fulfil as much of our potential as we can? Even if that means activity more aligned with those teams in 6th and above? So long as we're not spending more than we have, having ambition greater than Fulham and Villa is a definite positive. There's no reason to stop at "well we've added to our squad more than Fulham" if there's capacity to challenge Liverpool etc on an ambition level at least (if not in reality ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 All I hear on here is what a mess Liverpool are making of their transfer dealings so I'm a little unsure as to why we can't have a go at them. Last December, we were level pegging. My view is that we shouldn't be "aiming" to do anything other than win every game we play. The amount of beatable teams in the league means that I think the "can't compete with x, y and z" card is overplayed. They're not necessarily the teams you have to beat to finish high in the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 On the other hand, if we can get to 7th-8th this season on a budget, it leaves more for further down the line to spend to challenge even higher when we're in a position to sign even better quality players, whether it's because there's more cash in the club, or whether we look a better prospect for new owners to buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Pards is at Silverstone today btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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