Jayson Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. Yup one of those games, we played well. Swansea are like we were earlier in the season, solid defensively & they get that little bit of luck due to it so the ball falls to them in the area. They went defensive today clearly & its worked for them all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. Agree but we did nowt in the last half hour, that's when Pardew has the most influence to change the game and he fucked up today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. In the first half I agree. 2nd half was pretty flat tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. Aye in the first half but you've actually got to manage the situation to keep that going when things like momentum run out and you barely create a chance for half an hour. You're not always going to get the rub of the green. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 FWIW I understood Vuckic coming on, Tiote had a bit of cramp and he can play central midfield. Sammy is very raw though, and it's pretty farcical that Ben Arfa is been overlooked because of him. There must be something going on, but then why is he even on the bench if there is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Really manages to p*ss me off. For all the good he's done this season, he's made a lot of baffling decisions. I'm at the point where I'm struggling to contain myself slagging him off at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. So, remind me, why did he choose Ameobi?... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. Shola also went pretty close. There seems to be a belief that Ben Arfa is guaranteed to do something. He is a VERY talented player and is capable to doing amazing things but he isn't the dead cert some have pegged him as. Personally I would have put HBA on instead of Sammy but we have no idea what these players are doing in training and I don't think it's completely unreasonable for a manager to pick players based on what they are showing him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Can't understand for the life of me why he brough Shola and his lazy skills on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. So, remind me, why did he choose Ameobi?... Exactly. It's not like Shola is the destroyer of worlds when it comes to aerial threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Pardew looking very one dimensional in games like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. That's contradictory though. We were dominating in the air and Best was linking play well so he brought on Ameobi who has the touch of a rapist and ability to give away a foul every time he challenges for the ball in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 It was clear that the game plan wasn't working after about 15 minutes of the second half, that is when the manager needs to change things and he didn't. He went like for like putting Shola on and then put two unproven youngsters on. It's just poor by the manager really. From what I have seen of Pardew he just seems clueless on match days. It doesn't seem like he knows how to change the game or that he has a plan B or plan C, its the same thing week after week, even the exact same subs every week with Sammy on for Obertan. Theres no doubt Pardew has done a good job with the players behind the scenes, getting them playing well and getting the confidence up, but match days are a real concern for me. People might also take today's result because we are still on 27 points and have had a good start, but that doesn't mean we didn't drop 2 points today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Nothing is a dead cert but Ben Arfa is quite clearly a far greater footballer than Sammy Ameobi. IMO he should have been on the pitch when they threw in Nathan Dyer, we'd lost all of our momentum by that point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. Shola also went pretty close. There seems to be a belief that Ben Arfa is guaranteed to do something. He is a VERY talented player and is capable to doing amazing things but he isn't the dead cert some have pegged him as. Personally I would have put HBA on instead of Sammy but we have no idea what these players are doing in training and I don't think it's completely unreasonable for a manager to pick players based on what they are showing him Bollocks. People are only saying exactly what you've said right there - that they'd have put Ben Arfa on instead of the very raw Ameobi - but for some reason they shouldn't be saying it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. Shola also went pretty close. There seems to be a belief that Ben Arfa is guaranteed to do something. He is a VERY talented player and is capable to doing amazing things but he isn't the dead cert some have pegged him as. Personally I would have put HBA on instead of Sammy but we have no idea what these players are doing in training and I don't think it's completely unreasonable for a manager to pick players based on what they are showing him Bollocks. People are only saying exactly what you've said right there - that they'd have put Ben Arfa on instead of the very raw Ameobi - but for some reason they shouldn't be saying it? Not bollocks at all but you won't agree so there is no point getting into it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. The performance was very good, but when you need a goal with 20 minutes left, then SURELY HBA is a better option than the Ameobis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Who has said Ben Arfa is guaranteed to do something? If you're arguing that he's no more likely to make an impact than Sammy then yeah I won't agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The reactions We did more than enough to win this game today, just didn't happen. The performance was very good, but when you need a goal with 20 minutes left, then SURELY HBA is a better option than the Ameobis. Not sure why, none of them are overly prolific. Shola is probably the most likely to grab a goal out of any of them though imo. I have put my comments about Sammy above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You can see why hes chosen Ameobi though, best was destroying them in the air thats how we were keeping possession. So, remind me, why did he choose Ameobi?... Exactly. It's not like Shola is the destroyer of worlds when it comes to aerial threat. Tbf the instant impact Shola made when he came on for Benny against chelsea was that of keeping the ball for us more upfront via controlling long balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm disappointed Pardew didn't bring on HBA today, but he might have had his reasons. I don't agree with the decision, but I'm not goin to hammer Pards too much because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Looks like he's a manager who lacks the balls to change things and go for the win - he'd rather just wait and hope for things to go his way, even if it clearly isn't working or there are certain players (ones having a 'mare and doing sod all) who he should be replacing. It's like the Spurs game a few months back, it's 1-1 and a fairly even game, so in the 60th minute Redknapp makes a change that sees his side go from one up front to two, i.e. he's going for the win. Pardew just twiddles his thumbs like a helpless bystander and only makes changes once he's forced to. Similarly, had Swansea scored an early 2nd half goal today then just like that Spurs game, Pardew's substitutions would, without a shadow of a doubt, have been completely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I'm disappointed Pardew didn't bring on HBA today, but he might have had his reasons. I don't agree with the decision, but I'm not goin to hammer Pards too much because of it. Exactly. Anyway I would rather hammer him for bringing Sammy on than not playing HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Must play Hatem Ben Arfa. That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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