Fenham Mag Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Somebody on Total Sport before the Man Utd game said he was beginning to question Pardew! Wonder if the old git has changed his mind! Bizarre - no one on here was. Yes there was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Somebody on Total Sport before the Man Utd game said he was beginning to question Pardew! Wonder if the old git has changed his mind! Bizarre - no one on here was. Yes there was. Pleb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy1963 Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Pleased with him today for making the Obertan change really early in the second half and making us a better team. Just remember what happened when you're picking the team next week Alan. Agree totally. Shame the crowd wasn't bigger and noisier to make this even more obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just a few stats on Pardew's performance as manager which for me show very conclusively that he has done a good job so far considering what he started with. League Record: P42, W15(36%), D15(36%), L12(28%), F61(1.45 a game), A57(1.36 a game), 12 Clean Sheets(28%) All Competitions (After 90 mins): P47, W16(34%), D18(38%), L13(28%), F69(1.47), A66(1.40), 12 Clean Sheets(26%) All Competitions (Final Result): P47, W18(38%), D15(32%), L14(30%), F73 (1.55), A69(1.47), 12 Clean Sheets(26%) Last 38 League Games: P38, W13 (34%), D15(39%), L10(27%), F56(1.47), A51(1.37), 11 Clean Sheets(29%) League 2011/2012 Season: P20, W9(45%), D6(30%), L5(25%), F29(1.45), A25(1.25), 7 Clean Sheets (35%) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I had seats right behind the dugout yesterday and Pardew was very interesting to watch. 2 things that annoyed me though was Santon was passed the ball from right to left and he had acres of space to run into (like he regulalrly did in the second half and did successfully), Pardew screamed at him to play it back 30 yards to Krul, who lumped it up and we lost the ball And every time Obertan did something wrong Pardew just sort of shrugged his shoulders and went 'ah well', but when Ben ARfa did he was like a man possessed ranting and raving. I just hope he sees sense now though with Ben Arfa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I had seats right behind the dugout yesterday and Pardew was very interesting to watch. 2 things that annoyed me though was Santon was passed the ball from right to left and he had acres of space to run into (like he regulalrly did in the second half and did successfully), Pardew screamed at him to play it back 30 yards to Krul, who lumped it up and we lost the ball And every time Obertan did something wrong Pardew just sort of shrugged his shoulders and went 'ah well', but when Ben ARfa did he was like a man possessed ranting and raving. I just hope he sees sense now though with Ben Arfa He knows the characters of both players better than we do, maybe HBA needs the occasional rocket, and Obertan the arm round the shoulder? Could just be man-management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 If he doesn't then he's an idiot like, the difference in quality between the two isn't even funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I know what you mean, but this was ranting to himself not shouting to the players. It was obvious it was a sort of he's let me down again sort of face if you get me? But he keeps persisitng with him, when he obviosuly knows he's poor, judging by him on the touchline. Whereas when Ben Arfa lost the ball in comparison, it was bordering on ridiculous with how Pardew went on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Pardew knows the guy personally as opposed to the French posters and media though, in fairness. EDIT: That isn;t to suggest it isn't still the case though, Pardew may just be a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 This is all a smokescreen by Pards he just wants to play 442 direct and he doesn't really feel Hatem can fit into that system. [/lock thread] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. I might be looking too much into it, but it wasn't very nice to see tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. I might be looking too much into it, but it wasn't very nice to see tbh. Maybe that's why HBA had the 'quiet' finger on mouth celebration? Some of the things Pardew does with HBA reminds me on Soueness & Robert although it hasn't quite gone that bad....yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I had seats right behind the dugout yesterday and Pardew was very interesting to watch. 2 things that annoyed me though was Santon was passed the ball from right to left and he had acres of space to run into (like he regulalrly did in the second half and did successfully), Pardew screamed at him to play it back 30 yards to Krul, who lumped it up and we lost the ball And every time Obertan did something wrong Pardew just sort of shrugged his shoulders and went 'ah well', but when Ben ARfa did he was like a man possessed ranting and raving. I just hope he sees sense now though with Ben Arfa He knows the characters of both players better than we do, maybe HBA needs the occasional rocket, and Obertan the arm round the shoulder? Could just be man-management. Could just be that he knows Obertan is shit so expects nothing any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Good interview with him in the latest FourFourTwo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Good interview with him in the latest FourFourTwo Any notable quotes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Not really, I'll have another look tonight, but he said something like he went to Germany to study the way they train and why players there are better technically than English players. Says Cabaye will become a world class player and Lallana at Southampton is a great player. He said Ranger doesn't understand why he has been sent out to Barnsley, and how he prefers to bring youth players through and nurturing them in the first team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Not really, I'll have another look tonight, but he said something like he went to Germany to study the way they train and why players there are better technically than English players. Says Cabaye will become a world class player and Lallana at Southampton is a great player. He said Ranger doesn't understand why he has been sent out to Barnsley, and how he prefers to bring youth players through and nurturing them in the first team I'd be surprised if he knew his arse from his elbow to be honest let alone understand whats going on around him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Not really, I'll have another look tonight, but he said something like he went to Germany to study the way they train and why players there are better technically than English players. Says Cabaye will become a world class player and Lallana at Southampton is a great player. He said Ranger doesn't understand why he has been sent out to Barnsley, and how he prefers to bring youth players through and nurturing them in the first team Ranger is thick as f*** then (unsurprisingly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. I might be looking too much into it, but it wasn't very nice to see tbh. Maybe that's why HBA had the 'quiet' finger on mouth celebration? Some of the things Pardew does with HBA reminds me on Soueness & Robert although it hasn't quite gone that bad....yet Total tosh. What quiet finger? He was pointing to the crowd saying that was for you, then did the same and a heart sign towards the bench (or close by in the Milburn lower) ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. I might be looking too much into it, but it wasn't very nice to see tbh. Maybe that's why HBA had the 'quiet' finger on mouth celebration? Some of the things Pardew does with HBA reminds me on Soueness & Robert although it hasn't quite gone that bad....yet Total tosh. What quiet finger? He was pointing to the crowd saying that was for you, then did the same and a heart sign towards the bench ffs. Be lying if I said I've not been worried about Pardew's handling of Ben Arfa up to now but I don't think there was owt in that celebration at all. He touched his lips for about half a second, it wasn't a shushing gesture at all. Pardew's quotes about possibly playing him out wide are very welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Where are these quotes dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Where are these quotes dave? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91227.msg3439284.html#msg3439284 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Recalling various French input on here, it's Ben Arfa that needs the arm round the shoulder sometimes - not a rocket. Don't like the sound of Pardew's psychological profile there Guv. I might be looking too much into it, but it wasn't very nice to see tbh. Maybe that's why HBA had the 'quiet' finger on mouth celebration? Some of the things Pardew does with HBA reminds me on Soueness & Robert although it hasn't quite gone that bad....yet Total tosh. What quiet finger? He was pointing to the crowd saying that was for you, then did the same and a heart sign towards the bench ffs. Be lying if I said I've not been worried about Pardew's handling of Ben Arfa up to now but I don't think there was owt in that celebration at all. He touched his lips for about half a second, it wasn't a shushing gesture at all. Pardew's quotes about possibly playing him out wide are very welcome. Yup, I don't think there is a problem between them particularly, other than the obvious question, why the fuck am I not getting a game when Obertan or Shola are. A fair question now his overall fitness is looking good again, but I can see the logic behind Pardews reticence where a lot of our progress has been down to keeping us tight defensively all over the pitch. He needs to use Ba being away to unleash the lad now though, whether that is out wide (and that issue could be more down to where Ben Arfa saw himself when he joined, Pardew never totally ruled it out) or wherever. He needs to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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