Parky Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Just responding to some of the posts above e.g. Gino's experiences playing in academies. I was not attacking your country man! Please take it easy I think younger more talented managers are beginning to emerge, who have grown up more inspired by your Arsenal's, Barcleona's etc. and so it's just a matter of time before the dinosaurs all die out. Degs played in an academy, I was far too rubbish for that. My experience only comes from School and Sunday league level. It was just an interesting insight from Degs, that the same way of thinking goes from that bottom level I and a lot of others have played, right through to academies of Premier League Football clubs. It's ridiculous really. I know we're talking about Carver and not the whole country, but it is a more general UK problem. We have a lot of 'good football men' of very low IQ that have a big say in the opinions of the average person here. They get TV time and Newspaper articles to air their views and have influence as to what the average armchair fan thinks. This permeates right through our Football. I just don't imagine Merson for instance getting much air time to influence anybody's views in any country but the UK. There are some very intelligent Football people in the UK, but they're often marginalised and their simply aren't enough well qualified coaches here to get the modern game ideas across to young players. Isn't it the case that we only have about 10% of the Uefa qualified coaches Germany has? So we have a lot of people not even qualified to that level (that even Carver can manage) coaching our kids? It's no wonder that all they learn is to kick it forward as fast as possible. I can guarantee my child playing in the U12 here in Germany gets better coaching than anyone at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Danny Mills is quite well spoken which is why he gets a TV gig. As a player, he was little more than a thug. Remember when Bellamy skinned him by the corner flag so he just booted him in the shins? Utter wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 You're talking about John Carver and NUFC, Kaka. Not 'this country'. Aye, look at Pulis or Sherwood. They seem to know what they're doing even if it's just the basics. Carver is on another planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The worst thing is how nobody mentioned the side Carver chose. Raylor and Jonas as CM's. They can talk about how LVG was playing lads out of position to criticise him but not Carver. Being British buys you a very long leash with the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Only a team like Newcastle could think Ryan Taylor is still a viable Footballer. It's abysmal that we let our squad get to that and that Carver still thinks it's the battle plan for our central midfield. I like Ryan Taylor, but he was a fringe player at full back, even before he spent 26 months injured. How does he suddenly become our starting central midfield player? Only at Newcastle could that happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Danny Mills was co-commentating on the Leicester feed I watched and he wouldn't shut up about Jamie Vardy being the difference between the two sides and how we should get Armstrong on (after about 30mins) instead of Ayoze or Riviere because he cares about the club, would work his arse off and run about loads and apparently 'is in good form'. It epitomised a lot of what people are saying on here about the British mentality to football, ie work hard and you'll win. Nothing was mentioned of the fact that we had Ryan Taylor and Jonas playing centre midfield and no shape or system to speak of, just that we didn't have anyone that worked as hard as Jamie bloody Vardy. It's infuriating and almost unbelievable that someone who played at international level would think that. That Danny Mills was ever considered to be good enough to play on international level is a travesty on its own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The worst thing is how nobody mentioned the side Carver chose. Raylor and Jonas as CM's. They can talk about how LVG was playing lads out of position to criticise him but not Carver. Being British buys you a very long leash with the press. So infuriating man ... how do these guys get a pass so easily?! And then every other fan just regurgitates their nonsense. I was at an event last week, and a bunch of us started talking football, and they were all telling me how Carver is an honest man and cares about the club, and it's not his fault the team isn't performing. I wanted their blood strewn across the floor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicente_14 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The worst thing is how nobody mentioned the side Carver chose. Raylor and Jonas as CM's. They can talk about how LVG was playing lads out of position to criticise him but not Carver. Being British buys you a very long leash with the press. Totally agree, when i arrived at Leicester and saw the team, i was disgusted. How could you even begin to think Jonas & Taylor in the centre of a Premier League midfield is the answer. And it's the message it sends to players like Abeid & Anita as well, if they are watching those two playing ahead of them, their motivation and confidence must be at an all time low. Selecting Taylor as a set piece expert is hardly a logical answer either, he hasn't delivered a decent set piece in months! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The Raylor thing is completely unacceptable, and the selection of Jonas is close to being the same. Those two shouldn't be in the match day squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 A real fan would have maybe tried to take this job for a few weeks, and then as soon as it started faltering, walked for the better of "his people" in the stands and would have done is out-right best to make sure we got someone worth a damn to save this club from it's free fall to oblivion. A real fan of this club wouldn't have some 8 defeats in a row and with 3 matches to go still think he's got what it takes to keep us up. He's not shit man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I don't mind using Raylor and Jonas somewhere in our current circumstances, subs or fullback etc. But to have two specialist CMs on the bench is absolutely crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Click Me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I don't mind using Raylor and Jonas somewhere in our current circumstances, subs or fullback etc. But to have two specialist CMs on the bench is absolutely crazy. At best they should be at fullback. At best. I could understand throwing Raylor on for set-pieces late in the game perhaps even though he's set-pieces have been awful. But to start the pair at central midfield? Diabolical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Isn't it the case that we only have about 10% of the Uefa qualified coaches Germany has? So we have a lot of people not even qualified to that level (that even Carver can manage) coaching our kids? It's no wonder that all they learn is to kick it forward as fast as possible. Did an interview with the co-manager of Iceland recently. The Icelandic FA academies start taking players in aged five or six and ALL of their coaches, even for that age group, have either UEFA A or B licences. Probably why a country of 320,000 people and an appalling climate is FIFA ranked in the 30s, and beating The Netherlands in their EURO 2016 qualifying group, in which they are second at the half-way stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I wanted their blood strewn across the floor. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Fresh development" - SSN after the break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Carver bit his tongue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Fresh development" - SSN after the break Sounds like a crap reggae band Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Fresh development" - SSN after the break Sounds like a crap reggae band Nah, that was Aswad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Fresh development" - SSN after the break Colback as captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Hefty break. Have they got that Henry commercial on repeat again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Fresh development" - SSN after the break Sounds like a crap reggae band Nah, that was Aswad. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Had a good rant on Total Sport, earlier- probs about 615ish. Both barrels blazing again; 52:30 in http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02pckyj#auto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 But the clown in the studio (finishing off your call) still bleated on about us (fans) letting down the players They did fuck all when we got behind them. They gave us fuck all to shout about. How come we owe them That was Olivier Bernard wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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