Revolution Number 9 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 So does anyone reckon it could eventually lead to clubs selling their own TV rights? would be ok for us,great for man utd, s*** for the league in general. Aye, would just about kill off what little hope of a competitive league we have left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wigan with their 1 subscription Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wigan with their 1 subscription Dave Whelan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 from what I can gather there wouldn't be a major effect on tv income for the premier league since most of it comes from overseas rights and most of that outside europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Around £350m in Europe from £1.4bn global total ex-UK. Worth £2bn in UK alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wigan with their 1 subscription I dunno like. A club selling TV rights would probably mean we'd see more of Wigan and Blackburn because of cheaper rates than of Man U and Chelsea who would charge a fortune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The last thing you want is prem league teams organising their own TV rights. The rich will get even richer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 True, but it would be strange to have consumers choosing the games they want to watch (i.e. just Newcastle) but the money being shared equally. Can't see the big clubs being happy about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 No doubt they wont be happy but the league is far better as a collective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 No doubt they wont be happy but the league is far better as a collective. Yeah, I agree with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Still think they should broadcast all games in a subscription game selector red button style way. People will watch it anyway, might as well make it legal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 We can't let it get like Spain. Theres been some fuss there about TV rights because Barca and Real get monumentally more money than the rest. And that helped the league, didnt it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Still think they should broadcast all games in a subscription game selector red button style way. People will watch it anyway, might as well make it legal. More people would probably buy sky that way.. I know I would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethH Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Wigan with their 1 subscription I dunno like. A club selling TV rights would probably mean we'd see more of Wigan and Blackburn because of cheaper rates than of Man U and Chelsea who would charge a fortune. I bet MA the greedy bastard would try and pull a fast one aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heed Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 # Court decides Premier League cannot claim copyright of football matches but can for tv graphics, the league anthem, + video sequences. by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:38 AM # Prem League currently pumps out live "clean" feed of games for foreign broadcasters. Expect it to be stamped with graphics henceforth! by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:40 AM So does that mean the premier league will look to get around this ruling by putting their logo on all the feeds they put out, therefore allowing them to maintain how and to who the foreign providers distribute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 # Court decides Premier League cannot claim copyright of football matches but can for tv graphics, the league anthem, + video sequences. by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:38 AM # Prem League currently pumps out live "clean" feed of games for foreign broadcasters. Expect it to be stamped with graphics henceforth! by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:40 AM So does that mean the premier league will look to get around this ruling by putting their logo on all the feeds they put out, therefore allowing them to maintain how and to who the foreign providers distribute? Crop video stream and stream is no longer copyright. Only way I can see control staying is Sky buying the lot or Premier League buying the lot and selling it on, if that is indeed possible ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 # Court decides Premier League cannot claim copyright of football matches but can for tv graphics, the league anthem, + video sequences. by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:38 AM # Prem League currently pumps out live "clean" feed of games for foreign broadcasters. Expect it to be stamped with graphics henceforth! by JoelHillsSky via twitter 9:40 AM So does that mean the premier league will look to get around this ruling by putting their logo on all the feeds they put out, therefore allowing them to maintain how and to who the foreign providers distribute? Crop video stream and stream is no longer copyright. Only way I can see control staying is Sky buying the lot or Premier League buying the lot and selling it on, if that is indeed possible ? Cropping won't stop all the screen transition graphics and stuff. Starwipe etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Presumably the foreign broadcasters pay Sky for the 'clean' feed of the games though? Wouldn't that revenue be in danger if they stopped the clean feed and made it a branded one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchWilliam Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Presumably the foreign broadcasters pay Sky for the 'clean' feed of the games though? Wouldn't that revenue be in danger if they stopped the clean feed and made it a branded one? Foreign channels would still buy it for their local market. It would just mean Sky could legally prevent it being sold on into the UK market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just read the sentence today. As somebody who works in the media what can I say: WOAH. This is huge, huge and will effect not only sports, but all media business throughout the world (Europe is a key media market). It will suck for people like me (although one has to wait to see how this is applied since a single market for media content looks easy on concept but hard on practice), mind, but should lead to greater good for the consumer as rights prices should become lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Every time I read about how some judgement will 'increase competition and drive prices down', prices seem to go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 What will happen is that sports rights will become less valuable, which should mean smaller TV contracts for clubs. A key to media financing is territory-by-territory sales. You get a much higher amount selling rights to countries one-by-one than a larger entity like the entire EU. This applies to sports but also to movies (American independent film lives on European rights sales, a little known fact) and television. My expectation is that will force producers to reduce costs, and in the case of sports, clubs will be able to charge less for their contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 The PL could just bump up the asking prices for foreign tv companies, meaning they either dont buy rights or those companies up their subscription costs. Wish we went like Sweden and Finland with hockey and Germany with football where you can buy a "Season ticket" to see every single game! Cant see it happening for a while like! Out of interest, the cheapest option at the moment to get Premiership football is with Albanian provider Tring at £250 a year. They show 8 live games out of 10 each weekend. The Greek Nova Sport one being mentioned in this article is about £1000. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kevlaar Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Would love to see it go ESPN/Fox Sports style and have red button match choice - from a residential consumer point of view Not an expert so don't know whether this could actually happen soon, altough iI do reckon it'll ultimately happen. NFL match choice on sky a few years back was a god send Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Does this mean streams of foreign channels are no longer illegal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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