Ronaldo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'll say it again: every time Carr's actual scouting ability has been put to the test, he's failed. And no, buying Hatem and Cabaye isn't scouting, it's common sense given their price at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'll say it again: every time Carr's actual scouting ability has been put to the test, he's failed. And no, buying Hatem and Cabaye isn't scouting, it's common sense given their price at the time. Ayoze Perez? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 still discussing the merits of GC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'll say it again: every time Carr's actual scouting ability has been put to the test, he's failed. And no, buying Hatem and Cabaye isn't scouting, it's common sense given their price at the time. Ayoze Perez? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I'll say it again: every time Carr's actual scouting ability has been put to the test, he's failed. And no, buying Hatem and Cabaye isn't scouting, it's common sense given their price at the time. But it wasn't common though. No other club had the sense to buy those 2 players. Carr does deserve credit for their signings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 What was Carr's last successful signing btw? Sissoko? And even that's arguable Sarcasm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Except Carr's job wasn't just to scout players. It was to identify targets, source deals and find bargains and in that he was moderately successful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The problem with the Carr debate is that those who defend him usually go overboard with it and those who don't rate him usually are not giving him enough credit for what he did do. As usually the middle ground is the right answer, did he sign/recommend some absolutely awful or ill fitted players? yes. But did he sign/recommend players who Ashley failed to put up the cash for in some cases who were unquestionably good to great players? absolutely yes. But it's whatever, that part of the club is done now. Rafa is here now i really couldn't care less about what happened, it's over now and we don't have to concern ourselves with it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Except Carr's job wasn't just to scout players. It was to identify targets, source deals and find bargains and in that he was moderately successful. So moderately successful, in fact, that we've spent a decent amount of money in the past 3.5 years to be involved in 3 relegation battles in that time - one of which we couldn't survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Except Carr's job wasn't just to scout players. It was to identify targets, source deals and find bargains and in that he was moderately successful. So moderately successful, in fact, that we've spent a decent amount of money in the past 3.5 years to be involved in 3 relegation battles in that time - one of which we couldn't survive. Did the players get us in those relegation battles or the managers we have had? A bit of both, I suppose but 70/30 managers IMO. I did say moderate btw. Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Debuchy were all decent deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The problem with the Carr debate is that those who defend him usually go overboard with it and those who don't rate him usually are not giving him enough credit for what he did do. As usually the middle ground is the right answer, did he sign/recommend some absolutely awful or ill fitted players? yes. But did he sign/recommend players who Ashley failed to put up the cash for in some cases who were unquestionably good to great players? absolutely yes. But it's whatever, that part of the club is done now. Rafa is here now i really couldn't care less about what happened, it's over now and we don't have to concern ourselves with it anymore. Do you know this for certain? Not being arsey, genuinely curious, it has become one of those accepted assertions that crops up every now and again. Is there any evidence that a lot of GC's good ones got away? Were the lucky escapees relative unknowns who later blossomed? Or is it a case of I really wanted Pogba, but Cashley wouldn't stump up the dosh... Do the good escapees outnumber the horrific recommendations who we also didn't get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 All we know for certain is that virtually all of the not so well known players signed on his recommendation turned out to be unfit for purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Nothing to do with Pardew, Carver and McClaren's coaching? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just read of a Paul Barker who is apparently now our European Scout. Is this old news/have I missed the memo?? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/04/do-report-ryad-boudebouz-favoured-by-newcastle-united-scout-but/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Paul Baker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just read of a Paul Barker who is apparently now our European Scout. Is this old news/have I missed the memo?? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/01/04/do-report-ryad-boudebouz-favoured-by-newcastle-united-scout-but/ Old news, he was appointed about 4 weeks or so ago. He's Lee clarks brother in law and has worked a lot with him recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-news/graham-carr-parts-company-with-united Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Useless auld cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Get the fuck in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Byeeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Way overdue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 wew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Tarra. Interesting to see what's going on with that fella coming in and Carr being booted out. Hope Rafa is involved in these moves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Wew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Thank God. Long overdue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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