Dave Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The about turn in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The about turn in here. Just trying to maintain the positivity from yesterday I guess. My take is that, if Rafa really wanted him gone, he would have gone. As mentioned above, I'm sure Rafa will find a way to use Carr's contacts to his advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 The interview with him on the first page of this thread is pretty funny, the main priority at that stage was apparently a nippy striker who could play off the shoulder. If my timings are right I think we chose Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He's fucking useless and that won't change Rafa or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He can 'spot a player' my left nut, like. f***ing Stifler from here could've recommended Cabaye and Ben Arfa. Every time his scouting abilities have actually been put to the test we've signed utter rubbish or players not right for the PL. Except hardly any of us knew who Cabaye was when we signed him and don't lie. I mean any scout who watched him probably would have noticed him but please not let's act like he was a world renowned name. There's been plenty of other great players like Aubameyang among others that he advised we get but Ashley never put the cash down. Sure there's been a lot of duds but let's not act like the only good players he's put forward to the club have been Cabaye or Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I think HBA scouted himself tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Aye I don't give him credit for HBA, any nutcase could have seen that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Think it's rather difficult to judge him without knowing exactly what say he has had, or what weighting he's put on the players we've ended up signing. I think it's pretty clear he's ended up in a role not best suited to him however but that seems to have been reverted now? If Rafa is okay with what he's doing, and has the ultimate say, then let's go with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He deserves his 8 year contract just for giving us the opportunity to w*** over Ben Arfa's genuis. At the same time the Cabella and Thauvin deals and subsequent loans were dodgy as f***. It's like he acted on behalf of agents and Marseille. And let's not get into the Doumbia and Ferreyra loans.. Still I have no problem with him staying on as long as it's Benitez having the final say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Think it's rather difficult to judge him without knowing exactly what say he has had, or what weighting he's put on the players we've ended up signing. Wasn't there a report saying he'd offered his resignation, but it was refused on the grounds that we hadn't manage to buy any of his first choice targets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Wild celebrations in the Mondial Sport office. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He can 'spot a player' my left nut, like. f***ing Stifler from here could've recommended Cabaye and Ben Arfa. Every time his scouting abilities have actually been put to the test we've signed utter rubbish or players not right for the PL. Except hardly any of us knew who Cabaye was when we signed him and don't lie. I mean any scout who watched him probably would have noticed him but please not let's act like he was a world renowned name. There's been plenty of other great players like Aubameyang among others that he advised we get but Ashley never put the cash down. Sure there's been a lot of duds but let's not act like the only good players he's put forward to the club have been Cabaye or Ben Arfa. I'm sure anyone who followed Ligue 1 knew who Cabaye was like. He was regarded as on of the best players for the French champions. I don't watch that league, but if I did I'd know who he was for sure, it's pretty much like someone recommending Kante*. Getting him for so cheap without anyone else activating his clause was impressive, but in hindsight it seems more luck than anything, same with Ba. *Spotting him a couple of years ago is different, that's actually good scouting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Nothing to do with luck, everything to do with moving money around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 All he's ever been is a scout. Was given God-like status and then shot down, it's the English way. Was happy to see him go as our scouting policy clearly hasn't worked of late, but if he can work with Rafa there's no issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 A) There is no such thing as the perfect scout. Its not an exact science B) Doesnt matter if you are the best scout in the world, if the manager is crap - no player is good enough. (Ben Arfa) I have no problem keeping Carr, but having someone like Rafa as the filter - instead of Kinnear/Pardew/Charnley/et al Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 He can 'spot a player' my left nut, like. f***ing Stifler from here could've recommended Cabaye and Ben Arfa. Every time his scouting abilities have actually been put to the test we've signed utter rubbish or players not right for the PL. Except hardly any of us knew who Cabaye was when we signed him and don't lie. I mean any scout who watched him probably would have noticed him but please not let's act like he was a world renowned name. There's been plenty of other great players like Aubameyang among others that he advised we get but Ashley never put the cash down. Sure there's been a lot of duds but let's not act like the only good players he's put forward to the club have been Cabaye or Ben Arfa. Gameiro, Matuidi, Payet, Aubameyang, Cabaye...all before they were considered 'elite'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 All he's ever been is a scout. Was given God-like status and then shot down, it's the English way. Was happy to see him go as our scouting policy clearly hasn't worked of late, but if he can work with Rafa there's no issue. What you mean? He was/is part of the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I wanted him gone but if Rafa is cool with it so am I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 I wanted him gone but if Rafa is cool with it so am I I get this argument to some degree, but there must be some exceptions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Naw. No way. Trust our man 100%. Still wish the old kernt would retire but whatever. I'm sure he will sooner than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Would love more Darth Vader / Graham Carr images personally. The resemblance on the one Dave posted was absolutely uncanny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 There is more opinion changing going on in here than a Hillary Clinton rally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 There is more opinion changing going on in here than a Hillary Clinton rally. Quotes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 According to the player himself, we went as far as offering Aubameyang higher wages but he chose Dortmund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Bony was another one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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