Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Yeah, but you don't know if this is the same ball that you scored your goals with. If it's now a symbolic act, then fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 If it's now a symbolic act, then fair enough. In what world would you ever think it's not? FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 If it's now a symbolic act, then fair enough. In what world would you ever think it's not? FFS in the old days i think they used one ball most of the times. But don't let allowing yourself to think about it for a moment stop you from jumping on it for the lols; life's too short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Depends what competition, English football doesn't use multi-ball so it's generally the same ball unless something happens to it. Obviously I know the above post is about the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 If it's now a symbolic act, then fair enough. In what world would you ever think it's not? FFS in the old days i think they used one ball most of the times. But don't let allowing yourself to think about it for a moment stop you from jumping on it for the lols; life's too short. It's always been a fucking symbolic act. That there's multi-ball systems in use in certain competitions now doesn't change that. It's literally always been symbolism ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 You're wrong though Kaiz. Put your italics away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Ronaldo's gaff must be like a fucking ball pool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 Ronaldo's gaff must be like a fucking ball pool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEIjDygTkqM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 TIL that Ronaldo has his own museum "Museu CR7" in Funchal, Madeira, where he shows off all his trophies and memorabilia Spot some of his balls in the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Are medals symbolic gesture or the prize for the players' performances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Are medals symbolic gesture or the prize for the players' performances? Jesus fucking christ. Definition of symbolism 1 : the art or practice of using symbols especially by investing things with a symbolic meaning or by expressing the invisible or intangible by means of visible or sensuous representations: such as a : artistic imitation or invention that is a method of revealing or suggesting immaterial, ideal, or otherwise intangible truth or states b : the use of conventional or traditional signs in the representation of divine beings and spirits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 it's going to be a long, long season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Are medals symbolic gesture or the prize for the players' performances? Jesus fucking christ. Definition of symbolism 1 : the art or practice of using symbols especially by investing things with a symbolic meaning or by expressing the invisible or intangible by means of visible or sensuous representations: such as a : artistic imitation or invention that is a method of revealing or suggesting immaterial, ideal, or otherwise intangible truth or states b : the use of conventional or traditional signs in the representation of divine beings and spirits This doesn't prove that football players do it for for symbolism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 No one answered me fuckin lights on in the day question, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 No one answered me fuckin lights on in the day question, man Would imagine it’s to stop shadows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 They need better lights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Well no, because the conversation was about the actual ball vs just any one of multiple balls from a match. Any one of multiple balls from a match is symbolic, the actual one isn't, it's the real thing. The difference between 'I scored a hattrick with that football vs Real Madrid' and 'I scored a hattrick Vs Real Madrid, possibly with that football and one or two other footballs' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeToon Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Well no, because the conversation was about the actual ball vs just any one of multiple balls from a match. Any one of multiple balls from a match is symbolic, the actual one isn't, it's the real thing. The difference between 'I scored a hattrick with that football vs Real Madrid' and 'I scored a hattrick Vs Real Madrid, possibly with that football and one or two other footballs' But the entire act of taking a commemorative ball home in the first place is a wholly symbolic gesture, is Kaiz's point. There's no practical function to it. There's nothing special about the ball used to score a hat-trick, except for the symbolic meaning invested in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Well no, because the conversation was about the actual ball vs just any one of multiple balls from a match. Any one of multiple balls from a match is symbolic, the actual one isn't, it's the real thing. The difference between 'I scored a hattrick with that football vs Real Madrid' and 'I scored a hattrick Vs Real Madrid, possibly with that football and one or two other footballs' But the entire act of taking a commemorative ball home in the first place is a wholly symbolic gesture, is Kaiz's point. There's no practical function to it. There's nothing special about the ball used to score a hat-trick, except for the symbolic meaning invested in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 You're simply repeating the argument. The ball is 'special' because it was that ball that a hat-rick was scored with - assuming it's correct that in previous eras only one ball was used (I might be wrong about it, but that's the impression that I'm under). Anyway, what about winners' medals, Kaizero? Symbolic or the prize? (And no, you didn't answer this question appropriately). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 That said, if I'm so wrong, do explain how it's not a symbolic act for a footballer to take home a ball used in a match where he's scored a hat-trick. It's a memory of the time he scored a hat-trick. If he scored all, one or none of the goals in the match with the ball he's taking home doesn't make it any less symbolic for the player as the intended purpose is either to serve as a memory of the event and/or showcasing it as a symbol of said event. Well no, because the conversation was about the actual ball vs just any one of multiple balls from a match. Any one of multiple balls from a match is symbolic, the actual one isn't, it's the real thing. The difference between 'I scored a hattrick with that football vs Real Madrid' and 'I scored a hattrick Vs Real Madrid, possibly with that football and one or two other footballs' But the entire act of taking a commemorative ball home in the first place is a wholly symbolic gesture, is Kaiz's point. There's no practical function to it. There's nothing special about the ball used to score a hat-trick, except for the symbolic meaning invested in it. There's nothing special about the ball used to score a hattrick? Of course there is, it's the actual ball, that's the whole point that was made. There's no symbolism, because it's not symbolic of the real thing, it is the real thing. Kaiz's mistaken what the conversation was about. For evidence of the difference, look at the price difference between match worn shirts and replica shirts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 If the ball was used in the match is important, but not if all three goals were scored with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Mother of Christ this is fucking tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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