F.I.F.A Power,Corruption and Lies (allegedly)

[Stifler]

Shouldn't the sporting arbitration be able to go in and do an investigation and ban anyone from the organisation if they are found guilty?

[Consortium of one]

It needs to be gutted and ripped from the ground up, and don't make the same mistakes again. 4 year cycles, when you have the same people at the top for 30/40 years then corruption is inevitable because people become too powerful.

 

+1

 

There should be term limits, 8 years max.

[NG32]

It needs to be gutted and ripped from the ground up, and don't make the same mistakes again. 4 year cycles, when you have the same people at the top for 30/40 years then corruption is inevitable because people become too powerful.

 

It just seems impossible to do as they have nobody to answer to not even law. If FIFA found Warner guilty then he would be liable to law but when the fuckers are not finding anyone guilty of anything then law is powerless. Its a shame that someone truly independant can not investigate it. Maybe we need a NOTW undercover sting type of operation. b****** FIFA.

 

Aye. There needs to be external intervention.

 

How?

 

Not going to happen, FIFA dont have to answer to anyone.

 

Lke someone else has mentioned, its going to have to take a few big nations threatening to pull out of tournaments like Germany, France, England and Spain to worry FIFA.

 

Hit them where it hurts, MONEY.

 

 

[Tisd09]

It needs to be gutted and ripped from the ground up, and don't make the same mistakes again. 4 year cycles, when you have the same people at the top for 30/40 years then corruption is inevitable because people become too powerful.

 

It just seems impossible to do as they have nobody to answer to not even law. If FIFA found Warner guilty then he would be liable to law but when the fuckers are not finding anyone guilty of anything then law is powerless. Its a shame that someone truly independant can not investigate it. Maybe we need a NOTW undercover sting type of operation. b****** FIFA.

 

Aye. There needs to be external intervention.

 

How?

 

Not going to happen, FIFA dont have to answer to anyone.

 

Lke someone else has mentioned, its going to have to take a few big nations threatening to pull out of tournaments like Germany, France, England and Spain to worry FIFA.

 

Hit them where it hurts, MONEY.

 

 

 

The FA's wont do it, I think the players would have to make a stand, its just not going to happen.

 

Not sure whether it was UEFA or FIFA who fucked over Chelsea with Makelele, he had retired but because France had not accepted it and picked him Chelsea were forced to release him or have him banned for a game or too. How is that right? Or am I dreaming and that never happened?

[Sifu]

All that needs to happen is FIFA's sponsors walking away.....................unlikely to happen though.

[jdckelly]

Shouldn't the sporting arbitration be able to go in and do an investigation and ban anyone from the organisation if they are found guilty?

FIFA doesn't like outside interference everything must remain "in the football family" 

[Tisd09]

All that needs to happen is FIFA's sponsors walking away.....................unlikely to happen though.

 

Of course thats the way to get the fuckers aswell. Its just the arrogance of them all.

 

I know Plantini's not FIFA but to come out with comments like he did about Man Utd a few seasons back, about the lack of English players when they were about to play Inter, and the thing that pissed me off was that Inter had one or two Italians. Fucking grates me all of them.

[Vinny Green Balls]

I believe that a No-Fly Zone should first be authorized against FIFA, and then some serious bombing to protect all of us from weapons grade douchebaggery.

[Sifu]

The BBC has obtained a document detailing claims that Jack Warner handed a senior Caribbean football official a locked case containing envelopes of cash to be distributed to members of the Caribbean Football Union at a special meeting promoting Mohamed Bin Hammam's Fifa presidential bid.

 

The allegation is contained in a report by the CFU general secretary Angenie Kanhai. The two page document, on CFU headed paper and dated 15 July 2011, was prepared for Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke but was to be sent via the CFU's executive committee.

 

It is understood this document has now been submitted to the ethics committee investigating claims that Bin Hammam tried to bribe members of the CFU with gifts of £40,000 each. Kanhai has travelled to Zurich, where the hearing is taking place, and, crucially, was expected to give evidence on Friday.

 

Warner, Bin Hammam and two CFU officials, Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester, refused to co-operate with Fifa's ethics committee investigation, carried out by former FBI director Louis Freeh.

 

So the apparent co-operation of such a senior figure at the top of the CFU - Warner was effectively Kanhai's boss - is a significant development.

 

In a series of bullet points, signed by Kanhai, a detailed account is given of what happened during the meeting of the CFU at the Hyatt Hotel, Trinidad on May 10-11. The document states:

 

"I was directed to coordinate the special meeting of the CFU by Mr Jack Warner, who was at that time, president of the CFU. Mr Warner initially requested the meeting be held by April 18, 2011, but the May date was ultimately agreed.

 

"The purpose of the special meeting was to provide Mr Bin Hammam with the opportunity to address the delegates from the CFU.

 

"On May 10, 2011, Mr Warner advised me that he had gifts, which were to be distributed to the delegates. Mr Warner did not tell me what the gifts were, but advised that they were to be distributed from the Hotel (sic) that afternoon. After consulting with my staff, Jason Sylvester and Debbie Minguell, I suggested to Mr Warner that the gifts be distributed between 3PM and 5PM that day.

 

"During the morning session on May 10, Mr Warner made an announcement to the attendees about picking up the abovementioned (sic) gift. I was told that I should come to his office to collect the gifts that were to be distributed.

 

"I arrived at Mr Warner's office at approximately 2.30PM on May 10 and collected a locked bag with the key in the front pocket.

 

"The bag contained 26 envelopes, these envelopes were unmarked and were folded and sealed. I did not see any envelopes opened and left Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester to distribute the envelopes.

 

"The next day I met Debbie and Jason for breakfast at the hotel and they advised me that the envelopes had contained cash."

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    It's not unusual for such things to happen and gifts have been around throughout the history of Fifa. What's happening now for me is hypocrisy

 

Jack Warner Speaking on 20 June 2011

 

The report goes on to say:

 

"In speaking with the representative from the Bahamas I was advised that he had returned the envelope. The representative from the Turks and Caicos returned the envelope to Ms Minguell on the morning of May 11 2011.

 

"After the meeting I was contacted by Mr Warner who asked that the bag and any remaining gifts be returned to him."

 

Although Bin Hammam, Minguell and Sylvester all face being banned from football following the ethics committee hearing, all the charges against Warner were dropped last month after he resigned from Fifa and his powerful positions in Caribbean football.

 

Witnesses from some of the 25 CFU associations offered money have stated that the idea of giving cash gifts originated with Warner. But despite giving up his football posts he has repeatedly denied direct involvement in the bribery plot.

 

In a statement dated 20 June, Warner said: "I am convinced that since my actions did not extend beyond facilitating the meeting that gave Mr Bin Hammam an opportunity to pursue his aborted bid for the Fifa presidency, I would be fully exonerated by any objective arbiter."

 

Kanhai's account of events in Trinidad suggests then that Warner was more implicated in the bribery scandal than he has previously admitted.

 

But while the report shows a clear chain of command between Warner and the officials who allegedly distributed the money, it does not prove a direct link between the cash and Bin Hammam.

 

Leaked details of Freeh's report into the affair concluded that although there is no smoking gun there is "convincing circumstantial evidence" that he was behind it.

 

When contacted by phone by the BBC this week, Kanhai refused to comment on the claims she had been handed the controversial case of money by Warner.

 

Kanhai did not return a number of calls immediately prior to the publication of this story while repeated requests for comment from Warner received no response.

 

The new evidence emerged as Fifa's ethics committee began hearing the case against Bin Hammam. Earlier in the day the 62-year-old Qatari, suspended from all football activity on May 29, released a statement appearing to concede defeat in his bid to clear his name.

 

"Despite the weakness of the case against me, I am not confident that the hearing will be conducted in the manner any of us would like," he said. "It seems likely that FIFA has made its decision weeks ago. So, none of us should be completely surprised if a guilty verdict is returned."

[Stifler]

It's Blatter we need more dirt on, not people who FIFA have already sacrificed.

[Sifu]

[Sifu]

Former Fifa presidential candidate Mohamed Bin Hammam has been banned from football for life after being found guilty of attempted bribery.

 

The governing body's ethics committee made the decision on Saturday after a two-day hearing.

 

Bin Hammam was accused of attempting to buy votes ahead of last month's Fifa presidential election.

 

The 62-year-old Qatari withdrew from the election, leaving Sepp Blatter to be re-elected unopposed.

 

The decision makes Bin Hammam the most senior figure to be banned by Fifa in its 107-year history.

 

The former head of the Asian Football Confederation is now unable to be involved "in any kind of football-related activity at national and international level for life", Fifa ethics committee deputy chairman Petrus Damaseb said on Saturday.

 

A spokesman for Bin Hammam's legal counsel said they rejected the committee's findings.

 

"He maintains his innocence," the spokesman said. "He will continue to fight his case through the legal routes that are open to him."

 

 

Bin Hammam, along with former Fifa vice-president Jack Warner, was suspended after a leaked report revealed four Caribbean Football Union (CFU) associations were either offered money, or saw the offence occur, during a meeting in May.

 

It was alleged that cash-stuffed envelopes containing up to $40,000 (£25,000) were handed to the delegates during the meeting in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago.

 

The report said there was "comprehensive, convincing and overwhelming" proof that bribes had been paid to officials to support Bin Hammam's campaign for the Fifa presidency, and that Warner had facilitated this.

 

Warner's resignation from Fifa last month meant he did not have to face the ethics committee.

 

Two further officials from the CFU, Debbie Minguell and Jason Sylvester, were each banned from football-related activity for a year for their involvement in the bribery attempt.

 

In a blog post on Friday, Bin Hammam raised fears that he would not recieve a fair trial at the hearing.

 

"It seems likely that Fifa has already made its decision weeks ago," he wrote.

 

"So none of us should be completely surprised if a guilty verdict is returned."

 

Before the hearing, Bin Hammam suggested he would be compelled to appeal if the committee found him guilty of the charges.

 

"Rest assured that justice will eventually prevail whether through the Fifa ethics committee, the Court of Arbitration for Sport or if necessary, through other courts or legal proceedings in courts where we will be equal and no special privileges will be granted to either party," he wrote.

 

The ethics committee has now asked Fifa's legal department to prepare cases against Caribbean football leaders who are suspected to have knowingly covered up the instances of Bin Hammam's bribery attempts.

[biggs]

Hope that means the World Cup gets taken off Quatar then as they must have known what he was up to,give me one good reason other than bribes why they were given it in the first place .

[RupertCommunicator]

It's still not good enough. Blatter needs to go.

[bowlingcrofty]

Blatter interview at 7.30 on ssn where he will no doubt brush over a lot of important issues.

[Ishmael]

Blatter interview at 7.30 on ssn where he will no doubt brush over a lot of important issues.

 

FIFA demands more tail!

[BottledDog]

Blatter on his booing at Wembley - Yes but they applauded me like a hero in Newcastle.

 

He really is such a self centred prick.