Ronaldo Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Think he would had handed in a transfer request before he downed tools. We know Pardew and Co. would not had hesitated to divulged had a request been submitted. players they don't do that anymore, costs them a fair wad of cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 The rage at the player. You lot never learn. Do you think its fine for him to refuse to play (if it is true)? I think the club have been like a market trader all summer trying to get rid of him and I think they create a smear campaign whenever a player leaves to make them look hard done to. Spot on, he's still a cunt though regardless, he proved that last season he's just got an easy out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Crabeye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 You can't compare Cabaye to someone like Rob Lee but he is the best we have had in several years. Just hope we get it settled ASAP but knowing this lot it will drag and drag until we get what we want which might be over £20m. Only desperate clubs on deadline day might be tempted at the figure we want meaning we could get stuck with an unhappy and probably unpopular player. Ashley won't care about the timing though - water off a duck's arse to him as someone memorably said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Think he would had handed in a transfer request before he downed tools. We know Pardew and Co. would not had hesitated to divulged had a request been submitted. players they don't do that anymore, costs them a fair wad of cash They still do that. Didn't Benteke hand in a transfer request? He ended up getting a pay rise with a new contract, cost him nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Aye coz he backed down. Players don't get a 'loyalty bonus' they are due if the hand in a transfer request Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Stoke at home 2011/12 was his best performance for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Ronaldo loves saying underpants Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Aye coz he backed down. Players don't get a 'loyalty bonus' they are due if the hand in a transfer request We all know that. But they would increase their chance of a move if they hand in a request much like Benteke did. Lucky for Villa they managed the courtesy of granting him a new lucrative contract to convince him to stay. If Cabaye really is that desperate as 'downing tools.' I won't be surprised at all if he eventually puts in the request. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. thing is though is they really don't need him, Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, and Rosicky for the more creative positions, Arteta and soon enough Flamini for the more defensive position in their side. So why in gods name would they spend in or around £20m for him when there is other positions they do actually need players for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. thing is though is they really don't need him, Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, and Rosicky for the more creative positions, Arteta and soon enough Flamini for the more defensive position in their side. So why in gods name would they spend in or around £20m for him when there is other positions they do actually need players for. Exactly, Ashley is waiting on PSG because of the silly money they have not Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about. Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. thing is though is they really don't need him, Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, and Rosicky for the more creative positions, Arteta and soon enough Flamini for the more defensive position in their side. So why in gods name would they spend in or around £20m for him when there is other positions they do actually need players for. Rosicky is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Completely agree. If he was as good as people are saying he is, he'd have looked a lot better in the last 12 months or so, no matter how garbage the tactics are/were. Often he'd be one of the worst ones on the field in terms of rank ineffectiveness - there's no way that playing a centre-mid too deep suddenly means they forget how to pass or tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 We should take 15m and be very fucking happy about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Amazed anyone could be devastated, tbh. He was a big upgrade on Nolan as a footballer but next to some of the CMs we've had over the past 15 years he's not fit to lick their underpants. He's one of the better players of an underwhelming squad with a reputation that outweighs his actual effectiveness. Enlighten me which midfielders you're talking about. Count me in. Preferably if you could go a bit outside of the box and count out Speed and Lee. Is this a joke? Batty, Pedro, Speed, Hamann, Lee, Dyer and Parker were all more effective PL players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I wouldn't sell for any price, as we wouldn't get anyone get anyone anywhere as good as him to replace him. The little bitch is under contract, deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I wouldn't sell for any price, as we wouldn't get anyone get anyone anywhere as good as him to replace him. The little bitch is under contract, deal with it. the question a normal club would ask in this situation is how much effort will he really put in if he doesn't go? All our club considers is price however Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. thing is though is they really don't need him, Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, and Rosicky for the more creative positions, Arteta and soon enough Flamini for the more defensive position in their side. So why in gods name would they spend in or around £20m for him when there is other positions they do actually need players for. Ask them, they put the initial bid in didnt they. They are willing to spend money on Cabaye, maybe not 20m but thats what Ashley is looking to test. He just wants a bidding war. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 This has evolved into the kind of situation that Ashley loves to exploit. Disaffected player who is either refusing to play or is being stopped from playing showing that a problem exists within the club. Ashley would be hanging in there monitoring the situation in the hope of getting the player for a knock down price in a take it or leave it offer. Arsenal won't pay anything like what Ashley wants especially for a player they don't particularly need. If the club is preventing Cabaye from playing then and then trying to say he is the one refusing to play, it could cause upset amongst the other players. It happened with Carroll when other players were angry about how the events of that day played out and Enrique used it as a reason to leave. Depends how much the fans demand transfers. Ashley probably see's arsenal with lots of money & a time limit/pressure to use it, they've recognised Cabaye as one place to spend & he'll be relying on that pressure increasing as the days go. thing is though is they really don't need him, Wilshire, Ramsey, Cazorla, and Rosicky for the more creative positions, Arteta and soon enough Flamini for the more defensive position in their side. So why in gods name would they spend in or around £20m for him when there is other positions they do actually need players for. Ask them, they put the initial bid in didnt they. They are willing to spend money on Cabaye, maybe not 20m but thats what Ashley is looking to test. He just wants a bidding war. And I really don't know why they put in a bid in the first place, what they need ultimately is a striker and a defender so they go for another creative midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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