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gutted tbh, had my heart set on him giving them a right cunting this time :(

 

Fwiw theres always the chance he stays til the Summer, until we accept a fee i am not worrying about it

 

oh yeah, should have read "will be gutted" obviously - something tells me he's gonna do something against them this time and break the pardew curse

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We got Cabaye for a bargain price and we were always going to be a stepping stone if he shone.  He’s at the absolute peak of his form and value right now, but his form hasn’t been particularly consistent in the past. It makes sense to sell him now, even if he would be happy to stay.

 

:anguish:

 

agree with this tbf

 

To be absolutely honest there has been quite a long time recently where nobody would shed a tear about Cabaye going. Slightly unlucky that this is happening when he's finally putting some good form together.

 

When has Cabaye's form been inconsistent with us though? He's suffered from injuries last season and our results/performances have suffered as a result. When he regained fitness he was largely responsible for pulling us out of the relegation mess. Other than last season, due to injury, he's been consistently brilliant.

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IIRC we sold Cabaye the idea that he could use NUFC as a stepping stone, which is entirely why he came here. We got in early (along with Villa supposedly) and offered him the opportunity to come to the Premiership, get guaranteed first team football, and prove himself worthy of the big transfer he ultimately desires, as opposed to him playing the waiting game at Lille in the hope that a concrete offer from one of the big clubs materialized (after which he'd then have to be content trying to make a name for himself from the bench). It explains why he went on strike with the Arsenal interest because it's what he was promised. We're living up to our side of the bargain by selling him to PSG assuming any truth in this, so no complaints here.

 

Truth be told, part of me wants to see Cabaye sold because there's a possibility (even if a completely remote one because of Pardew) that Cabaye's direct replacement might be Ben Arfa. I know many folk think Ben Arfa doesn't have the right traits to play in the number 10 role, but we've rarely ever seen him in a deeper AM role (certainly not in the current team), and it's an area of the pitch that he often naturally drifts to to get on the ball. Plus there's no real need for a defensive shift to be put in with Tiote and Anita behind him.

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When has Cabaye's form been inconsistent with us though? ....Other than last season, due to injury, he's been consistently brilliant.

 

has he been consistently brilliant?  i recall him being consistently better than our other players i suppose

 

first season he was playing in pardews fussball team so his flashes of quality were not as widespread imo, second season as you say injuries caused inconsistent form when he did play...i recall him coming back from injury in january and putting in 2-3 good performances right way then fading away fairly rapidly for the rest of it

 

this season been pretty great now the team plays football that suits him

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Am I the only person looking forward to shuffling it about? Bring in more entertaining (Flair, skill) players to watch? I love watching Benny, Surely if Cabella is what I understand him to be based on youtube and reports it can only be a good thing?

 

Cabaye wants CL fooball, and he should. We should get as much as we can while we can and look to reinvest, if Cashley will. Which is the only part I worry about!

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Am I the only person looking forward to shuffling it about? Bring in more entertaining (Flair, skill) players to watch? I love watching Benny, Surely if Cabella is what I understand him to be based on youtube and reports it can only be a good thing?

 

Cabaye wants CL fooball, and he should. We should get as much as we can while we can and look to reinvest, if Cashley will. Which is the only part I worry about!

 

It's interesting for sure, I just never like selling quality players.

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PSG have talked about their interest in Cabaye for so long but have never made a bid.  Either make a bid or stop talking - it is not as if they are struggling to pay the fee and there is no point in trying to destabilise us because we are not competing with them on any level.

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If by some slim chance (and I mean a slim chance) we managed to get a CL spot for next season, we might be able to pursuade Cabs to sign a contract extension in the summer rather than move to PSG, who can pretty much guarantee CL football, but will Cabs really fancy taking a backward step by going back to Ligue 1 football rather than stay in the EPL with us?

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PSG have talked about their interest in Cabaye for so long but have never made a bid.  Either make a bid or stop talking - it is not as if they are struggling to pay the fee and there is no point in trying to destabilise us because we are not competing with them on any level.

 

Aye we can talk, like.

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If by some slim chance (and I mean a slim chance) we managed to get a CL spot for next season, we might be able to pursuade Cabs to sign a contract extension in the summer rather than move to PSG, who can pretty much guarantee CL football, but will Cabs really fancy taking a backward step by going back to Ligue 1 football rather than stay in the EPL with us?

 

Quoi?

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If by some slim chance (and I mean a slim chance) we managed to get a CL spot for next season, we might be able to pursuade Cabs to sign a contract extension in the summer rather than move to PSG, who can pretty much guarantee CL football, but will Cabs really fancy taking a backward step by going back to Ligue 1 football rather than stay in the EPL with us?

 

It's the only thing that would give us a shout of keeping him.

 

By no means a mission impossible, either. So frustrating.

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We're not getting into the CL. Unless we brought a load of amazing players all of a sudden and went on an epic run. But it's just not going to happen.

 

This.

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We're not getting into the CL. Unless we brought a load of amazing players all of a sudden and went on an epic run. But it's just not going to happen.

 

The whole nub of the issue imo.

 

I will be sad to see such a good player, one of few we have, leave us. it looks like, and I am giving the club some credit here, that we have a 'replacement' lined up. (If the Cabella rumours are true obvs).

 

Of course as many have said, replacing a settled and performing player with the 'potential' of one is another matter. No guarantees for any side/team or manager on that tbh (of course better managers probably mean more chance of replacements being a success, I would imagine).

 

The bigger issue is one of what clubs like us (Villa, Everton, Spurs to an extent) can expect. The holy grail of the CL is an all consuming driver nowadays and unless UEFA sort it out, then the elitist blue print we have for football will only get worse imo. Can any of us expect to develop a team/squad without regular CL football?

 

Quite why they cant put some real value back into the UEFA cup to restore some balance boils my piss. I genuinley despise the CL format and the ramifications it is having on the game.

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The bigger issue is one of what clubs like us (Villa, Everton, Spurs to an extent) can expect. The holy grail of the CL is an all consuming driver nowadays and unless UEFA sort it out, then the elitist blue print we have for football will only get worse imo. Can any of us expect to develop a team/squad without regular CL football?

 

And not only that, you have the issue of owners who are prepared to sink infinite money into transfers.

 

Basically this is the key issue underlying everything for me, and why I don't necessarily blame NUFC for these departures. The traditional competition in football has been rendered obsolete by money. We can only climb so far without infinite investment, and at the moment our ceiling is probably only a couple of places above where we are.

 

In that situation, players will sometimes leave to go to richer clubs. It's inevitable, I can't bring myself to complain about it (although I find the whole situation regrettable).

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It's au revoir in my opinion.

At the beginning of the month I browsed a bookie site which was offering odds on January transfers - player and buying club. Even some of the most talked about ones were in the range of 5 to 8/1. Cabaye to PSG was a quite staggering 4/6 which would indicate a large amount of probably well informed wedge had already been placed.  Whatever people say about Ashley he tends not to fail in his objectives, he takes hits along the way and often goes for a bumpy ride but he sticks to his core plans and this fits perfectly with his sell high outlook.

If it is consolation, as things stand at present, I agree with earlier post that this will open the door for HBA to become the main man. Cabaye's roll has been increasingly free in front of a very solid midfield four, there was no way Pardew was having two "free" players and HBA suffered.

HBA given the same role in front of that four will be different, probably more exciting and hopefully as effective.

Anyway we'll see. As we all well know anything can happen round here in January.

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The bigger issue is one of what clubs like us (Villa, Everton, Spurs to an extent) can expect. The holy grail of the CL is an all consuming driver nowadays and unless UEFA sort it out, then the elitist blue print we have for football will only get worse imo. Can any of us expect to develop a team/squad without regular CL football?

 

And not only that, you have the issue of owners who are prepared to sink infinite money into transfers.

 

Basically this is the key issue underlying everything for me, and why I don't necessarily blame NUFC for these departures. The traditional competition in football has been rendered obsolete by money. We can only climb so far without infinite investment, and at the moment our ceiling is probably only a couple of places above where we are.

 

In that situation, players will sometimes leave to go to richer clubs. It's inevitable, I can't bring myself to complain about it (although I find the whole situation regrettable).

 

Agree. 100%.

 

For once I don't really see this as being mad Mikes fault or even Pardpoos. (The 'hawking' around of our talented players by them is in their control mind, and some of the implied stuff in Pardews pressers and article quotes leave a very sour taste).....

 

Its as inevitable as the sun rising and a fight in the Bigg market on a saturday night. Talented players will be seeking the money and prestige of the CL, the rest of us will be 'feeder' clubs to one extent or another.

We can simply hope to enjoy the likes of Cabaye for a limited time, and hope these players can lift us ever closer to the top 4 whilst they are with us. Then with some investment................aah fuck it!

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