aussiemag Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would like us to play 4-3-3 next season, and tbh we'll be a better team with someone else at LW. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left as long as we get someone else for the money. Agreed I got raped on here for saying such things a couple of weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would like us to play 4-3-3 next season, and tbh we'll be a better team with someone else at LW. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left as long as we get someone else for the money. Agreed I got raped on here for saying such things a couple of weeks ago Not by me you wouldnt have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Aye, that's exactly what you got slated for I have had enough. Let him go this summer. I cannot accept him doing nothing except trying ridiculous long shot on the pitch. His time has peaked here. Poor footballer. Needs to go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd like to see him stay if his heart is in the right place..... but I reckon he'll be gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not sure I can grasp the logic behind being not arsed about proven Premier League goalscorers walking away. It's as if they are really easy to come across. We've done really fucking well to have two on our books and it's one of the main reasons we have a massive advantage on everybody else in the league. We should be doing everything possible to keep all our best players together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 His time hasn't peaked, he's not a poor footballer, I'd like him to stay, but because of the way the team is best set up, if we want that style next season he'll think what many on here have since cisse came in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not sure I can grasp the logic behind being not arsed about proven Premier League goalscorers walking away. It's as if they are really easy to come across. We've done really fucking well to have two on our books and it's one of the main reasons we have a massive advantage on everybody else in the league. We should be doing everything possible to keep all our best players together. fucking bang on, ba & cisse have contributed nearly 30 goals this season man - take away one of them for an average 5 goal a season striker and we don't finish where we do the idea that the only option is keep him and play him LW or get a LW and sell him is madness....cisse guaranteed to stay fit and player every game like isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'd love him to stay. If Cisse does his cruciate in August, we'll need him badly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 His time hasn't peaked, he's not a poor footballer, I'd like him to stay, but because of the way the team is best set up, if we want that style next season he'll think what many on here have since cisse came in. He would be excellent to have on board as replacement for Cissé, but if we're playing 4-3-3, I think he should be second choice in the "number 9" position, not pushed out on the left because he "has to play". If so, I'd rather he left than unsettled the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Just to clarify, we'll not look to get rid but he may well look to get away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Not sure I can grasp the logic behind being not arsed about proven Premier League goalscorers walking away. It's as if they are really easy to come across. We've done really fucking well to have two on our books and it's one of the main reasons we have a massive advantage on everybody else in the league. We should be doing everything possible to keep all our best players together. fucking bang on, ba & cisse have contributed nearly 30 goals this season man - take away one of them for an average 5 goal a season striker and we don't finish where we do the idea that the only option is keep him and play him LW or get a LW and sell him is madness....cisse guaranteed to stay fit and player every game like isn't he? We're hopefully going to be playing close to 60 games next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 We look better playing 4-3-3 at the moment, but it's not exactly going to be the only formation we'll play next year, and despite what we've shown this year you can actually play good effective football in a 4-4-2. Being happy to go into the season with 1 striker of any real quality is just absurd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 We look better playing 4-3-3 at the moment, but it's not exactly going to be the only formation we'll play next year, and despite what we've shown this year you can actually play good effective football in a 4-4-2. Being happy to go into the season with 1 striker of any real quality is just absurd. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Exactly, Hans. That's what I'm saying. We're hopefully gonna be playing nearly 60 games. We need depth, options to play different systems etc and more importantly we'll need all the good players we can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would like us to play 4-3-3 next season, and tbh we'll be a better team with someone else at LW. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left as long as we get someone else for the money. Agreed I got raped on here for saying such things a couple of weeks ago will love him to stay...he has proven he is willing to help the team (even out of position). we will need good strikers...we will play many games next season and cisse cant play all. Cant see how you will replace ba for the money we can get for him. keep ba and cisse and sign a 3 striker of same caliber...maybe younger and more unproven but with talent....that should be the plan imo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The other thing about replacements. If the fee we get for him is reportedly accurate then there is an extremely slim chance that we're going to get as good a player for the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If true though sewelly the choice won't be ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 i do agree with the 'keeping him happy' aspect though, pardew seems to have done it in a few games that was arguably to the detriment of the team and performance he's got to accept he might not start every game, if he can't then it might be better to move him on than crowbar him in just to keep him happy...depends entirely on his attitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The problem is his clause. Now I understand why Pardew said" we gotta show our love to pursued him to stay". This is to be done by letting him do whatever he want on the pitch, trying ridiculous shot, being selfish and ignore his teammates. To be honest, the 433 tactics have been very successful until Ba being accused of unhappy. Then what we saw is our team trying to let him score, shift Cisse to the left, let him shot everywhere... I want him to stay if he is willing to play like a left wing or a backup for Cisse. However if due to the clause we have to please him like a baby and sacrifice our result, I would rather tell him either to put the club before himself or just leave. The other reason is, I don't think Ashley is willing to renegotiate the contract to get that clause away in exchange for higher wages. To him the dodgy knee is a huge risk which he doesnt want to take, especially after the success of Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I think keeping him happy was due to the fragility of his contract situation though (if indeed Pardew was just playing him to keep him happy), if we get into the new season with him tied down on a different contract then the ball is in Pardew's court. I think him and the rest of our players would see it differently next season anyway depending on how we do, if we're up there fighting for a Champions League place again, aswel as doing well in Europe and the cups i'm pretty sure they would be happy with the rotation. EDIT: In short, Pardew will not go into next season with a player he feels he HAS to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 We should be doing a hell of a lot to convince him to stay really. He was the one who fired us into contention for Europe in the first place, before Cisse stole his limelight. I don't think he's great out wide in the 433 really, I've said it before. But he's far and away our second best forward and as such we need him in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 He played in all of our 4-3-3 victories and I for one would be devastated if we sold him, 16 goals in half a season was no fluke and I think it was more ACON after affects than formation or Cisse signing that hurt his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I would like us to play 4-3-3 next season, and tbh we'll be a better team with someone else at LW. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left as long as we get someone else for the money. Agreed I got raped on here for saying such things a couple of weeks ago thats because selling ba would be riddiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 He played in all of our 4-3-3 victories and I for one would be devastated if we sold him, 16 goals in half a season was no fluke and I think it was more ACON after affects than formation or Cisse signing that hurt his game. whatever it was, watching the start of the man city game staggered me - he looked fucked, completely dead on his feet fucked playing 50% slower than anyone else on the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 am i the only one who thinks he can do a very good job on the left of a 4-3-3? in the last few games hes been poor, but i think thats just a confidence issue. before that he looked really good there and brought a lot of quality to the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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