BrettNUFC Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Do people really think we would've been better last season had Ba stayed on the left last season? Honestly? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Not now you've expressed your scepticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He's been left out of the Senegal squad - reckon he'll be looking for a move in January. x2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Not now you've expressed your scepticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Wish we had Remy - Ba - HBA tbh. I really do miss this syrup drinking beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Do people really think we would've been better last season had Ba stayed on the left last season? Honestly? Yes. Yup. He was actually close to quite a few goals from that position too, he just missed the chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 How exactly have you guys come to that conclusion? We've played a similar system this season with a striker more suited to that position and we are still terrible. Had Ba been there I doubt he would've scored the 13 league goals and we would be relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Do people really think we would've been better last season had Ba stayed on the left last season? Honestly? Yes. Yup. He was actually close to quite a few goals from that position too, he just missed the chances. Aye, we also kept clean sheets and Cisse scored whenever he felt like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 It's pointless doing this debate again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Makes me like Chelsea a little better tbh Makes me hate them and Roman Abramovich even more. Demba Ba was a quality long-term(ish) sort of player for us but, due to their huge financial power, they were able to acquire him for peanuts (to them anyway) even though everyone, including Chelsea themselves I'm sure, could see that he was nothing more than a stop-gap signing. Basically, they fucked one club off one of their best players for their own short-term success, mainly thanks to their money power. Fuck off Chelsea and Abramovich, you fucking cunts. Agree. They've got form for this too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Makes me like Chelsea a little better tbh Makes me hate them and Roman Abramovich even more. Demba Ba was a quality long-term(ish) sort of player for us but, due to their huge financial power, they were able to acquire him for peanuts (to them anyway) even though everyone, including Chelsea themselves I'm sure, could see that he was nothing more than a stop-gap signing. Basically, they fucked one club off one of their best players for their own short-term success, mainly thanks to their money power. Fuck off Chelsea and Abramovich, you fucking cunts. Agree. They've got form for this too. Welcome to football in 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Glass Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Errr.... http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/blog/35388-blog-ba-nailed-on-for-return-to-newcastle.php#.UnzE9HDIZSE Speculation, one would assume, considering the source. However, considering the source, worthy of mention. Feck it, if the terms are favourable for the club, I wouldn't be dead against it. Would rather we looked elsewhere, or we got Cisse firing on at least one cylinder. Hope this isn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I would absolutely love to have Ba back here. He's in the top bracket of centre-forwards in this league, imo. Can't see it happening, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I'd take him but, obviously, but I'd rather we went for a striker that wasn't so selfish. He, like Cisse, does have his patches where he looks fucking shite as well, but the difference between the two of them is that we've seen Ba come out the other side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I'd take him but, obviously, but I'd rather we went for a striker that wasn't so selfish. He, like Cisse, does have his patches where he looks fucking shite as well, but the difference between the two of them is that we've seen Ba come out the other side. Really? I can only recall Ramadan - when he first arrived - where he looked a bit naff for a couple of games. He was consistently excellent from then on, including at left-wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just cannot not see us paying more than we got for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Wasn't he a big leader In the dressing room as well? Despite the goal selfishness he had presence about him and seemed to care enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Wasn't he a big leader In the dressing room as well? Despite the goal selfishness he had presence about him and seemed to care enough. For all the debates around his position, he was very professional on the pitch. Was scoring right up until he left. Think Arsenal was his last game, and he scored twice in that one. The polar opposite to many departing players we've had in the recent past. Can't think of many who scored in their last game for the club, Duff at West Brom is the only one that springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I don't really blame Ba for much, it was Pardew's fault for playing Cisse out of position to accommodate him. I think he's a complete mercenary obviously, but that applies to a lot of players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I can't see many fans being to upset if he did return, think would see Cisse leaving though. Ba always seemed a team/squad person, well liked and very professional but it doesn't matter what the fans want the club won't pay what Chelsae will want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I don't really blame Ba for much, it was Pardew's fault for playing Cisse out of position to accommodate him. I think he's a complete mercenary obviously, but that applies to a lot of players. The team did actually step it up a notch when that happened though and it's not like Ba hadn't played there before either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Don't know what he's earning per week at Chelsea but would we match it? Think we may have the same issue with Remy if we look to sign him permanantly, I would think QPR are still picking up a chunk of his wages whilst he's here on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I'd take him but, obviously, but I'd rather we went for a striker that wasn't so selfish. He, like Cisse, does have his patches where he looks fucking shite as well, but the difference between the two of them is that we've seen Ba come out the other side. Really? I can only recall Ramadan - when he first arrived - where he looked a bit naff for a couple of games. He was consistently excellent from then on, including at left-wing. I personally thought he was poor for the majority of Cisse's first 6 months with us, particularly whilst on the left wing. His touch was laboured and he shot from silly positions when we had Ben Arfa and Cisse either side of him in good positions. I also felt like he slowed our attacks down to the point where I was disappointed when it was him that picked the ball up when we were on the counter (around the 6 wins in a row time). Wasn't really until the beginning of last season when Ba returned to where he was pre-Cisse signing IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I don't really blame Ba for much, it was Pardew's fault for playing Cisse out of position to accommodate him. I think he's a complete mercenary obviously, but that applies to a lot of players. The team did actually step it up a notch when that happened though and it's not like Ba hadn't played there before either. I meant when we forced Cisse out wide so Ba could be central. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 With regards to "staying professional up until the moment he left", I think you can put a couple of spins on that - I would say he was playing for himself and a move, so he had an incentive to score goals. In his last few games for us it felt to me like he'd have taken a defeat so long as he scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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