High Five o Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It would be far too narrow down the middle, let's the opposition defense and holding midfield handle you easily due to lack of space. But lets say we use Jonas and Tiote as holding midfielders. Then we can send Debuchy (god bless him, and sign the dotted line you sexy fucker!) & Santon up as wingers. Then we have width, also, HBA will drift in the hole (awaiting mccarthy gif), using the space left at the wide positions. Same goes for Cisse/BA, more fluid system up front. Cabaye will advance centrally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I dont see why a rejuvenated Ba would not do well in a 433 formation, so I think Pards quotes should be taken to mean that we will revert to 442 or that Ba will replace Cisse as the centre focal point. I don't like either of those options. Sorry my bad, it should have been "so I think Pards quotes should NOT be taken to mean..." My point is that the quotes could mean a variety of things and nobody knows how Pardew wants to play Ba for the new season, so it's all speculation at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully pardew is only saying this now so Ba wants to say. Then he goes like "HAHA" and sets him on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Meh, there's really no need to panic just because of those quotes. I think Pardew's earned some benefit of the doubt at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully pardew is only saying this now so Ba wants to say. Then he goes like "HAHA" and sets him on the bench Yeah, that would be ridiculously funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully pardew is only saying this now so Ba wants to say. Then he goes like "HAHA" and sets him on the bench Yeah, that would be ridiculously funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 See the ugly swap deal rumour for Carroll is doing the rounds.. Would MUCH rather keep Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 See the ugly swap deal rumour for Carroll is doing the rounds.. Would MUCH rather keep Ba Swap deals are ridiculously rare, I don't know why journos bother peddling them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Wouldn't make sense either, given that Ba is far more versatile than Carroll and neither would be happy sitting on the bench. Carroll would want the same thing Ba supposedly wants but with far less flexibility with regards to fitting him into the side. Complete non-story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James1892 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Galatasary signed a forward this morning, Amrabat I think he's called. Reckon this would end their (supposed) interest in Ba? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully pardew is only saying this now so Ba wants to say. Then he goes like "HAHA" and sets him on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully Pardew just plays the lad, considering he's absolute fucking quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 It would be nice to think that with Cabaye and Tiote adjusted to the rigours of the prem we could play a four four one one with demba coming back to help out and playing between the lines when we have the ball. If Manu and Shiteh do It why can't we?? Would take big cojones to do so given the results of the 433 last term... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Hopefully Pardew just plays the lad, considering he's absolute fucking quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Galatasary signed a forward this morning, Amrabat I think he's called. Reckon this would end their (supposed) interest in Ba? They've also signed Burak Yilmaz who was top scorer in their league last season. Happened a week or so ago I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. His form dipped, but I wouldn't say I'm 'concerned' about it. Look at when he first joined, we thought we'd got ourselves a duffer and he was never going to cut it. Several amazing goals later he's the talk of the town. If he doesn't want to leave for money, I'm sure he'll stay and work through his bad patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. His form dipped, but I wouldn't say I'm 'concerned' about it. Look at when he first joined, we thought we'd got ourselves a duffer and he was never going to cut it. Several amazing goals later he's the talk of the town. If he doesn't want to leave for money, I'm sure he'll stay and work through his bad patch. I really hope he does, of course. It's just a niggling thought I can't shake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not even slightly concerned about Ba's form in the upcoming season. Think we'll see him re-energised and lethal again. The lad's a really natural striker of the ball with good movement and excellent technique. His form in the latter part of last season was probably his worst form over the past few years, it's meaningless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James1892 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Galatasary signed a forward this morning, Amrabat I think he's called. Reckon this would end their (supposed) interest in Ba? They've also signed Burak Yilmaz who was top scorer in their league last season. Happened a week or so ago I think. Great, there's one supposed link cut off then. I don't honestly see him leaving anyways, if someone wanted him they'd have came in for him already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. It's the other way round in my opinion as Ba's scored around 1 in 2 wherever he has gone. He's a class player and I thought his all round play while out of position were all very good in the 2nd half of the season, he just couldn't seem to find the back of the net. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. It's the other way round in my opinion as Ba's scored around 1 in 2 wherever he has gone. He's a class player and I thought his all round play while out of position were all very good in the 2nd half of the season, he just couldn't seem to find the back of the net. Spot on, purple patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. It's the other way round in my opinion as Ba's scored around 1 in 2 wherever he has gone. He's a class player and I thought his all round play while out of position were all very good in the 2nd half of the season, he just couldn't seem to find the back of the net. Spot on, purple patch Michael Ricketts mark II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Not even slightly concerned about Ba's form in the upcoming season. Think we'll see him re-energised and lethal again. The lad's a really natural striker of the ball with good movement and excellent technique. His form in the latter part of last season was probably his worst form over the past few years, it's meaningless Not sure it's meaningless as it basically confirms his fitness isn't quite up to playing a key role for a full season. He'll need a break here and there. I'm not concerned too much, though. I can see him really looking the part again during the first part of the season. Great player, as you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not by any stretch am I saying we should be selling him, but I am slightly concerned about his form at the back end of last season. I'm hoping he can pick it up again, but there's this slight niggling worry that his early season form may have been a purple patch (although his career to date suggests otherwise). He may have been due a rest but his touch, passing, movement, and finishing all looked laboured, and he seems to make strange decisions, like shooting from nowhere when he has options ahead of him for the pass (did it against Fener as well). Possibly thinking too much and just needed a goal, but it's a worry for me. Hopefully first game of the season he'll put that thought to bed. It's the other way round in my opinion as Ba's scored around 1 in 2 wherever he has gone. He's a class player and I thought his all round play while out of position were all very good in the 2nd half of the season, he just couldn't seem to find the back of the net. Spot on, purple patch I'm sure I'm wrong, and obviously hope I'm wrong. As I said, his career to date suggests otherwise, it's just a niggling feeling I have as he went from absolutely outstanding to pretty poor towards the end of the season. I don't particularly think his all round play whilst out of position was that great either. He was fairly decent when he first moved out wide, but he got progressively worse as the games went on IMO. Was making incorrect/strange decisions, and was the one going forward that slowed our attacks down if anything. He looked like he was thinking too much. Probably needed a rest, which is why we could do with another quality striker. He'll prove me wrong within a week of the new season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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