Benwell Lad Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Anyone got any idea's on the “I was very determined because lately I have not been so happy with some things. Some things have been going on. When I got my boots on, I couldn’t wait” line? Like any good pro, disappointed when he's not in the starting eleven I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I have no problem with Ba being a bit moody at all. He's a winner, he's been that type of character all along. I remember Pardew mentioning his personality being his biggest asset. He thinks very highly of himself, he's very confident. He's had a tough spell since Papiss arrived, that's no secret. Him proving to himself, Pardew and us that he's as good as he showed last autumn is probably the only thing on his mind. Of course he's angry with being left out. Excellent response. We had one of the top strikers in Europe when he was on form last season, hopefully getting back to that now that he might feel more settled again. Another good thing: this puts a bit of pressure on Cissé. He'll want to make a case for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19635010 Cunt. (agent) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Papiss proved Pardew right. No doubt Ba will be number one if he keeps this up. It's how it works. His agent can fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm very impressed at his reaction to being dropped. Superb half from Demba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I think he needed to be dropped to realize he's not untouchable and that he needs to prove himself, credit to him his reaction to it was brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 If we were to play 3 upfront again, id say Demba has certainly earnt the central spot now. Just as Cisse had leading on from last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I wonder what Harry Redknapp thinks of all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" added Gontran. "The choice to put Demba on the left last season was good for the club, because Cisse scored 13 goals." I think you've just answered your own question there, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" Yep. Because it was good for the team, that's 'how'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rey Mysterio Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The finish for the second goal was really classy. Changed at the very last second to get the ball under Howard, the finish of a confident striker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm fine with an angry Demb. The fact of the matter is he came back from the ACON looking well knackered and could have scored a few great goals had it not been for some posts and some bad luck. But having said all that, this is the first time he's looked like his old self. So keep it up - Get that "I'll show you" type anger back like he had last 1st half of the season when he seemed like a man trying to prove a point to the world. There is no resting on laurels in this crazy game. I hope this is the start of him and our squad getting back to form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" Yep. Because it was good for the team, that's 'how'. We were 5th before Ba got shunted out on the wing. We were hardly struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Pards benched him simply because he was always going to need them rested for the European match in midweek. I'm sure he'd play both of them on the same team on any other schedule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm fine with an angry Demb. Absolutely. I just think he's temperamental. If he is in a bad mood, it'll sometimes work against us and be irritating, but on other occasions it'll galvanise him - like it did last night. If he's in a good mood (which, tbf, has been the vast majority of the time), he's a real asset to the side. We all know his quality; it didn't just disappear. If Pardew manages to find a way to play him and Cisse together, it'll be fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" Yep. Because it was good for the team, that's 'how'. We were 5th before Ba got shunted out on the wing. We were hardly struggling. It was good for the team. I'm sick of this notion that Ba's got a right to moan about being played in any position and sulk, he's a professional footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 "How could you put your best striker with full confidence on the left wing?" Yep. Because it was good for the team, that's 'how'. We were 5th before Ba got shunted out on the wing. We were hardly struggling. Actually we was 7th and it got the best out of Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Jonas and we won 6 or 7 in a row, it was clearly what was best for the team at the time. What is best for the team is more important than what is important for one player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The first goal was classic evidence of them being able to play together btw, two great runs to split the defence and give Cabaye an option. AYe, first thing that strikes me for that goal was the two offering different options and not going for the same ball. Was it them two ahead of Ben Arfa when Jones stupidly didn't give the advantage on the breakaway? That was just magnificent thinking - Benny in the middle and the two in wider positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Actually we was 7th and it got the best out of Cisse, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Jonas and we won 6 or 7 in a row, it was clearly what was best for the team at the time. What is best for the team is more important than what is important for one player. We were 5th after Villa where he started upfront, with Best, and scored. We went unbeaten in the league for 3 months with Ba upfront (and no Ben Arfa) too. It was good for the team. I'm sick of this notion that Ba's got a right to moan about being played in any position and sulk, he's a professional footballer. If I was in the form of my life I'd not want to be moved out of position. He deserved better than that after his first 6 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 For Fifty thopusand pounds a week- I would do what my manager thought was best and simply try my hardest. In fact Id probably do that for fifty thousand pounds a year tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The thing that annoys is people say it like Ba was solely playing on the left for that period. That simply wasn't the case. He and Cisse swapped roles many times during games, just Cisse took his chances whereas Ba didn't. If Ba had scored regularly during that period this wouldn't be the issue that it has become. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 so we all agree Agents are Cunts then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The thing that annoys is people say it like Ba was solely playing on the left for that period. That simply wasn't the case. He and Cisse swapped roles many times during games, just Cisse took his chances whereas Ba didn't. If Ba had scored regularly during that period this wouldn't be the issue that it has become. Pretty much bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The thing that annoys is people say it like Ba was solely playing on the left for that period. That simply wasn't the case. He and Cisse swapped roles many times during games, just Cisse took his chances whereas Ba didn't. If Ba had scored regularly during that period this wouldn't be the issue that it has become. The front 3 was constantly interchanging, said it before Ba's problem was confidence and fitness more than actually playing on the left. Also i'm aware we was 5th when we beat Villa but when we changed to 4-3-3 and went on that winning run we was 7th. Anyway it's not really the point, the club is more important than any one player and it was clear that at the time getting the best out of Cisse, Ben Arfa and Cabaye was better for the team than what was best for Ba. It's not like he was stuck out on the left wing all game with no freedom of movement anyway, he got into central positions consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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