johnnypd Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 The talk when we signed Ba was of an incentive based contract. would imagine with marveaux's worries he has something similar so the weekly wage might not be astronomical. Alternatively we took him from Liverpool's grasp with a better contract offer, as everyone (including a number of people on here) would have us believe. Considering the signings Liverpool have been making in recent times... True, though a better contract may mean more years, or bigger signing on fee (which would fit with the info about how much we've spent on "agent's fees"). I get the impression that while Marveaux didn't fail his medical, that liverpool decided on making a worse offer than he'd expected due to the fitness issues. if he is on big wages then at 5 years it does seem a bit stupid, i just can't see it based on who owns us and the way they've apparently acted with other players and even the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Paranoia about losing players on a free = 5 year contacts all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Just seen this...what the f*ck man?! Looks like he might be a 5 game a season man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 I still think he'll come good, even if we have to wait until next season. I hope that the latest operation will sort him out because in the past he's had groin operations. This time they've also operated on his hip so I just hope that the dodgy hip is causing his groin to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I still think he'll come good, even if we have to wait until next season. I hope that the latest operation will sort him out because in the past he's had groin operations. This time they've also operated on his hip so I just hope that the dodgy hip is causing his groin to go. Still going to give the lad a chance myself. I won't write him off just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Why do you think he'll come good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Why do you think he'll come good? He's shown some glimpses of good football when he has played and I hope after this injury, his injury problems will be behind him. Probably wishful thinking but we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 And Mick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Why do you think he'll come good? He's good on the ball and rarely loses or gives the ball away, his pass completion for us must be quite high. He's a clever footballer who likes the team to retain possession, he looks to receive the ball and move it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Don´t expect a response. Way to constructive on your own part Mick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Fine. Just seemed like typical blind optimism. Makes you wonder why he only started one league game and rarely came off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Fine. Just seemed like typical blind optimism. Makes you wonder why he only started one league game and rarely came off the bench. Aye, in the same way it makes you wonder why Obertan and Ryan Taylor get so many games. The manager isn't always right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We gambled on both him and Ba, one has paid off, the other one hasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We gambled on both him and Ba, one has paid off, the other one hasn't. we dont know that yet, like mick points out he is a good footballer alround, the lad has missed loads of football due to a shit injury..pardew said eh wanted to build him up before putting him on the pitch. We just started using him and he picks up another crappy long term injury. Hes been pretty unlucky really. As for the contract none of us know the details of it, we know ashley and decker are tight as fuck...i bet soemthing is written into it about injuries. We lose our centre backs and predictably lose the next two games due to lack of cover, everyone freaks out, all the players are shit now, the club is shit, pardew cant make a decision and so on. Fuck off man, we all knew we had a thin squad to begin with and we all knew it was a a gamble until jan. We've been a little caught out with one CB fucked all season and another with a slight strain who will hopefully be back in the next game. A few weeks back some of you lot were banging on about finishing in europe and pardew is the best thing since sliced bread. Oh how things change when peoples expectations dont get filled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Let's not forget it was a bad tackle that crocked him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 nah he is shit, its been decided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It was 'decided' (evident) that he had a terrible injury record before we even signed him. Nothing's changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Let's not forget it was a bad tackle that crocked him Aye, but there is nobody else who would suffer a season ending injury because of that tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hoping to be back in February or March according to the latest Chronicle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 If true excellent news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Am hoping the operation on his hip has cleared up the recurring trouble with his groin. Will be a fantastic option to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 If true excellent news So sometime between 4 games time and about 10(FA Cup/our medical staff permitting) hopefully asap as we need the competition on the flanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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