Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 'A Demba Ba style target man' So, a target man who is absolutely not a target man in any way, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 If he's fit to start the season and his injuries are behind him, it would be a mistake to sell. We already have a lack of creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Don't worry man we've got Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the fuck are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the fuck are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. I agree, but let's not forget we've only sold Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the f*** are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. I don't get this. We've only sold James Perch who is legitimately only decent in a position where there's 6 better alternatives. I'll only be concerned if we sell Willo and Marveaux. Tbh if we did sign Bent, i'd rather we sold Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the f*** are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. You do realise we have sold Perch to a championship club right? you do realise Perch was getting minutes over international footballers last year yes? If we sell Cisse and Marveaux then you have a point..... but not with James f*cking Perch when we have better players already. Our problem isn't a lack of numbers its a lack of quality and we have more than enough in the positions Perch played. What we seriously lack is creativity, width and goals none of which Perch provides. The way some of you are going on about Perch is as if he's Andrea f*cking Pirlo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Your anger needs to be directed towards the man that continually picked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Aye, Perch is barely a Premiership player ffs. Would be terrible if we sold Marveaux like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Your anger needs to be directed towards the man that continually picked him. You are right, my apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I was a fairly long term critic of Marveaux and I still think he could offer more but even I think we'd be very foolish to sell. We'd likely get not much, he can play a range of roles, he is one of 2/3 genuine creators we have and he'd need to be replaced effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm sceptical he'll ever really make it for us, but next season seems like his best chance to give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm sceptical he'll ever really make it for us, but next season seems like his best chance to give it a go. He'll never make it if he's given so few starts and consistent ones at that. Can't expect consistency if he's playing one week and benched the next, i do fear because of this we will never see his best on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Due to his injuries he's someone you can't rely on. If he was evergreen like Jonas we'd probably be still in the same position of selling him but for very different reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Due to his injuries he's someone you can't rely on. If he was evergreen like Jonas we'd probably be still in the same position of selling him but for very different reasons. Agreed with this. In the games I've seen him in, it's clear there's a good, intelligent, skillful player in there with an eye for a pass but alas injuries have put paid to any reasonable run in the team. My fear is he's another Kieron Dyer, just simply injury prone and might never get a consistent run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 He'll never get near to Dyer's level, most likely. Agree with all his positive attributes though, if he stays fit he could do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 He'll never get near to Dyer's level, most likely. Agree with all his positive attributes though, if he stays fit he could do well. Dyer's level wasn't that great imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 It seemed he was available for plenty of league games last term, but was overlooked by Pardew. I like him, and under another manager he would flourish. He's a creative player with an eye for a good pass, he can run with the ball effectively but he hasn't got the ability to tackle so he will be held back under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 He'll never get near to Dyer's level, most likely. Agree with all his positive attributes though, if he stays fit he could do well. Dyer's level wasn't that great imo. Dyer was quality when he was fully fit IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I thought he blew hot and cold. Unarguable ability but as mentioned blighted by injury and at times his desire was questionable (imo). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 His passing range wasn't great, but the amount of opportunities he created with his dribbling skills was great. Looked decent for England in his limited appearances I thought. Had a canny finish on him too, though he wasn't the best at striking the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Aye I dont deny his potential, but never reached the levels he should have for numerous reasons. Didn't notch enough goals either for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Aye I dont deny his potential, but never reached the levels he should have for numerous reasons. Didn't notch enough goals either for me. Definitely agree with you there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 There was little wrong with Marveaux's fitness last year but he doesn't fit the style of the team. The style is dictated by the manager and he doesn't fancy him. I think Pardew probably has a fair appreciation of what Marveaux can do but he's also extremely concious of what he can't. Marveaux isn't Pardew's kind of player, plain and simple. Pointless him taking up wages for the odd sub appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 There was little wrong with Marveaux's fitness last year but he doesn't fit the style of the team. The style is dictated by the manager and he doesn't fancy him. I think Pardew probably has a fair appreciation of what Marveaux can do but he's also extremely concious of what he can't. Marveaux isn't Pardew's kind of player, plain and simple. Pointless him taking up wages for the odd sub appearance. Yeah get rid of him and his assists and let Sammy in the team. Who needs a squad anyway?! THREE OUT, ZERO IN, and Marveaux on his way. Can't wait until next season when Pardew (if he's still there) is moaning on about injuries again by October and lack of depth in the squad. Its a fuckin piss take, but the same old fans will be advocating the sale of players who can't fit into the tactics of the leagues shittest manager! And its the same cunts happy to give Pardew one bad season who are first advocate the sale of players after only a few months of dropped form. Tiotes shit so get rid, good money for Cabaye, Ben Arfa always injured anyway, Jonas needs to retire, let Cisse go to Russia, Perch isn't good enough anyway, Simpson was shite, can't wait to see the back of Williamson, Gosling not good enough, retire Shola, Obertan's shite........ I could go on and on with stuff ive seen over the past day or so. How about we sign players before we start selling them for next to nothing? We're hardly skint and if we're going to sell decent back up for as little as £700k, im sure we can afford to replace before we let them fuckin go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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