Mole_Toonfan Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Cabaye's replacement then? If we did end up getting Aubameyang, I think Tiote (or replacement), Sissoko, Marveaux/Anita, with HBA, PEA & Cisse could work. They all look ok, i think with Marv though, Pardew just doesn't fancy him as much as say Tiote or even Perch. He just has to have that tackle in there. And even when he had Tiote in there, he still picked Perch instead of Marv. I really do worry about Pardew's thinking with players within certain systems. With no Cabaye though, he might fancy him or Anita as the 'creative spark' from the midfield. I'm kind of hoping if Cabaye goes we don't replace like for like instead put Anita next to Sissoko and sign a more offensive midfielder. Strangely it might actually be more balanced than any midfield we have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Not if Anita continues to get bullied and go missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Not if Anita continues to get bullied and go missing. I think Sissoko will help a lot with that plus also i find Cabaye and Anita far too imbalanced they both do similar things and i think Anita would perform better without Cabaye. Would obviously keep Cabaye above all else but if the scenario takes place that is what i'd do personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas 1m Another to go from #nufc? Sylvain Marveaux not sure of future at Newcastle http://bit.ly/17HMxjI Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More Sylvain Marveaux not sure of future at Newcastle United 3 Jul 2013 08:25 Newcastle United winger Sylvain Marveaux is keen to stay at St James' Park and is looking for assurances on his first-team future Sylvain Marveaux is looking for assurances on his first-team future amid interest from France, Russia and Germany, The Journal can reveal. The winger is understood to be keen to stay at St James’ Park but feels he needs to play more to get his career back on track after a stint on Tyneside plagued by injuries. His representative has fielded calls from CSKA Moscow and clubs in France and the Bundesliga enquiring about his availability. However, having lost several fringe players already – James Perch’s move to Wigan was in its final stages yesterday – United will not want to lose Marveaux. The winger is one of the non- international players due to return to the training ground this week as United’s players filter back for pre-season medical tests. They will not step on to the training pitches until Saturday, however, when Alan Pardew and his coaching team will oversee his first session of the summer. Director of football Joe Kinnear had hoped to have his first signing on board by then but United’s long- standing interest in one striker has ended. United are assessing their options after losing out on Pierre- Emerick Aubameyang, who has joined Borussia Dortmund after the Bundesliga club reached an agreement with St Etienne. United had been in contact with the Ligue 1 club over the last 10 days but do not appear to have been involved when things heated up over the last 48 hours. They had been encouraged by agents working on his behalf – and by Aubameyang himself – in the last week, but Mike Ashley appears keen to recruit within a budget again. An £18m asking price was always likely to be beyond Newcastle but it will still be disappointing for United fans who remain deeply sceptical about the appointment of Kinnear as director of football. Kinnear was not helped by more quotes yesterday in which he proclaimed his credentials for the job, with delivering a first signing essential to answering questions about his own credibility. The Journal understands initial discussions on recruitment were focused on United’s need for more of a Demba Ba-style target man. Having not entered the race to sign Andy Carroll, they have expressed interest in André-Pierre Gignac of Marseille. Ajax’s Siem de Jong was a January target but he is more of a ‘number ten’. He is looking for a new challenge this summer. Meanwhile, Pardew will also seek talks with midfielder Yohan Cabaye next week after a worrying flurry of summer stories claiming he wants to leave Newcastle. United’s official website published an interview with the France international in which he claimed the club would come back stronger than ever. He said: “It was a difficult season for us. We started quite well and then had a big hole where we were losing a lot of games. “We had a lot of injuries to players as well, with big players missing, and that was hard when we were playing in the Premier League and the Europa League. “Yet we fought together, stayed together and fought to be a Premier League squad next season which is the most important thing. “We have to learn from our mistakes but the main thing was safety and the club staying in the Premier League. For the future, we learnt a lot.” http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sylvain-marveaux-not-sure-future-4861981 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 If we let him go it will be a clear signal the club do not understand where the talent in our squad lies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Yet to be convinced he can adapt to the Prem and totally unconvinced he can adapt to our team as it is. Transfer away probs best option for everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 'A Demba Ba style target man' So, a target man who is absolutely not a target man in any way, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 To be fair Ba won more than his fair share of headers and held the ball up much better than anyone else we've currently got at the club (except when Shola's playing his one good game in fifteen). The fact Cisse is so naive at bringing other players into the game really cost us last season as our rather agricultural passing (ie hoof) just kept coming back. And to be fair even when we did pass it into feet often it still came back. If we're going to continue to play with that kind of style we'll need someone who is mobile but can win headers and hold up the ball. Else it'll become like a few seasons back when we were using James Milner as our target from goal kicks. (A tactic I noticed England attempted to use horrendously against Brazil this summer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Would be fucking pissed if we let Sylvain go - Pards needs to figure out how to accommodate a starting 11 with both Hatem and Sylvain on the pitch at the same time unless we go on and sign someone better to be our creative attacking midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 When fit, Marveaux is one of our best players. It would be a ridiculous sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Needs to show that a bit more often when he is fit then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Marveaux's only started 11 league games for us. That's less than Gouffran. For the limited opportunites he's had, I think he's done reasonably well and shown a lot of promise. Well worth keeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 'A Demba Ba style target man' So, a target man who is absolutely not a target man in any way, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 If he's fit to start the season and his injuries are behind him, it would be a mistake to sell. We already have a lack of creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Don't worry man we've got Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the fuck are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the fuck are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. I agree, but let's not forget we've only sold Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the f*** are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. I don't get this. We've only sold James Perch who is legitimately only decent in a position where there's 6 better alternatives. I'll only be concerned if we sell Willo and Marveaux. Tbh if we did sign Bent, i'd rather we sold Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm beginning to question the minds of some posters on this board. It seems in every single thread regarding every single player who is linked with a move away from us, there are a few who think its a fantastic idea, how that player never did much anyway, and should be sold. If we sell all our best players, where the f*** are Joe and Alan going to find replacements from? Cisse? Bent is better, marra. Marv? Never adapted marra. Perch? Should never have been taking up a spot from Bigi (!) marra. We need to have a bigger picture here in mind and not be reactionary and look at every single potential sale as a one-off. We are potentially breaking this team apart completely if we continue to sell the few players who did deliver last year in a pathetic season. We should be looking to add talent. You do realise we have sold Perch to a championship club right? you do realise Perch was getting minutes over international footballers last year yes? If we sell Cisse and Marveaux then you have a point..... but not with James f*cking Perch when we have better players already. Our problem isn't a lack of numbers its a lack of quality and we have more than enough in the positions Perch played. What we seriously lack is creativity, width and goals none of which Perch provides. The way some of you are going on about Perch is as if he's Andrea f*cking Pirlo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Your anger needs to be directed towards the man that continually picked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Aye, Perch is barely a Premiership player ffs. Would be terrible if we sold Marveaux like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Your anger needs to be directed towards the man that continually picked him. You are right, my apologies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I was a fairly long term critic of Marveaux and I still think he could offer more but even I think we'd be very foolish to sell. We'd likely get not much, he can play a range of roles, he is one of 2/3 genuine creators we have and he'd need to be replaced effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm sceptical he'll ever really make it for us, but next season seems like his best chance to give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'm sceptical he'll ever really make it for us, but next season seems like his best chance to give it a go. He'll never make it if he's given so few starts and consistent ones at that. Can't expect consistency if he's playing one week and benched the next, i do fear because of this we will never see his best on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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