Guest H09 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I've never seen him play well on the wing. Front of the middle 3 on the other hand he has been class before. But Pardews glasses are all style and no vision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Weak useless player. Granted he played 2 or 3 good passes since he has been here, but last night was another invisible man performance. It was almost as if soon as Debuchy got taken out he got scared and lost interest. The amount of times he lost the ball by turning around back to his own goal and taking too long to pass. Pardew should have took Marv off for Benny and left Goofy on. He's got great technical skills with the ball at his feet but his all round game isn't good enough IMO, another player far too old to be playing like a kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He generally shines after a run of games no? Would love to see him in the team with HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Marveaux was undeniably underwhelming, but far from the worst on display. He had his moments last night - remember him making a great burst through the middle only for him to pass it forward to Gosling who lost the ball under his feet. Also thought his delivery from corners were good. If used properly (and that's a big if, admittedly), he's still a good asset. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Needs to show he can contend a 50/50 properly. We'd be better off signing a Morecambe player if that's a yardstick. I'm a big fan of Marveaux, but he has to show something in a 50/50 to justify playing in a midfield 3 imo. Even Juan Mata can come out with the ball in a 50/50 sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Every player on the pitch should be able to contend a 50/50 properly man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Needs to show he can contend a 50/50 properly. We'd be better off signing a Morecambe player if that's a yardstick. I'm a big fan of Marveaux, but he has to show something in a 50/50 to justify playing in a midfield 3 imo. Even Juan Mata can come out with the ball in a 50/50 sometimes From what I've seen, Marveaux will pull out of some 50/50s, he definitely did yesterday. He defends more positionally than by tackling so if you want a player to win tackles he's not your man. I thought other that that though he handled the physical side ok. When he had the ball he shielded it quite well and didn't get dispossessed that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i think the game over here is too intense for him. too quick, too hard. it's what mapou,debuchy and sissoko are coming to terms with and may not get there. cabaye adjusted very quickly, i think he's a one off for that. I'll ask you the same question as earlier. Why do the better passing teams seem to have more time on the ball? I don't see Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs getting dragged into physical battles. We spend millions yet still end up looking like Southampton under Pardew. Why is that do you think? Absolutely. However you look at it, Pardew is the major symptom and cause - NOT a cure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Thought he was invisible in the first half, although his corners were decent (througout). He improved in the second half but was still fairly quiet. His performance summed up the game really: shite first half, mediocre at best second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 No Manchester United player is allowed to shirk physical confrontations. From 1 to 11 they won't do it. They simply won't be out worked 90% of the time. Out of all their wingers Nani is the least receptive to 50/50's and he memorably got sent off for competing decently for one. With Valencia, Young, Welbeck, RVP and Rooney in advanced areas you can't pretend only Stoke players should be able to do anything off the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 You on about the sending off against real madrid? How in the hell was that a 50/50? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 You on about the sending off against real madrid? How in the hell was that a 50/50? exactly. Also Marveaux got booked last night putting a tackle in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Was never going to look good in a game like last night, especially with us set up the way we were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Marveaux got a yellow for dawlding on the ball and having to bring the man down.... I wouldn't call that contesting a 50/50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I would call it retarded mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It was a horrible piece of play. I like Marveaux and have seen what he can do.... yesterday... yeah... he had some moments I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 No Manchester United player is allowed to shirk physical confrontations. From 1 to 11 they won't do it. They simply won't be out worked 90% of the time. Out of all their wingers Nani is the least receptive to 50/50's and he memorably got sent off for competing decently for one. With Valencia, Young, Welbeck, RVP and Rooney in advanced areas you can't pretend only Stoke players should be able to do anything off the ball. He's not a Man U calibre player, if he was he would be playing for a CL club. He's got a lot of ability but he is never going to be a player who gets stuck in, it's just not in his make up. Our version of a hard working winger would be Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It was a horrible piece of play. I like Marveaux and have seen what he can do.... yesterday... yeah... he had some moments I guess. I think he's got the ability but he doesn't look like he could give two shits. Remember that picture of him in the dingi? That's his footballing philosophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 No Manchester United player is allowed to shirk physical confrontations. From 1 to 11 they won't do it. They simply won't be out worked 90% of the time. Out of all their wingers Nani is the least receptive to 50/50's and he memorably got sent off for competing decently for one. With Valencia, Young, Welbeck, RVP and Rooney in advanced areas you can't pretend only Stoke players should be able to do anything off the ball. He's not a Man U calibre player, if he was he would be playing for a CL club. He's got a lot of ability but he is never going to be a player who gets stuck in, it's just not in his make up. Our version of a hard working winger would be Jonas. **sigh** you don't have to be a workhorse to contend a 50/50. He just plays like he's scared to get injured or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Was never going to look good in a game like last night, especially with us set up the way we were. So you must have a low estimation of him if he is going to struggle at that level of opposition ,a good footballer or team unless they are having an off day should not be made to look shit off Morecambe .Tbh i do not rate him that highly and his injury record has followed him from France . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Was never going to look good in a game like last night, especially with us set up the way we were. So you must have a low estimation of him if he is going to struggle at that level of opposition ,a good footballer or team unless they are having an off day should not be made to look s*** off Morecambe .Tbh i do not rate him that highly and his injury record has followed him from France . Morecambe wanted a physical,direct game and they got what they wanted (despite Pardew's pre-match comments). His passing ability and technical qualities are never likely to come to the fore in such a situation. Marveaux is up there with our best players in terms of natural ability imo, but we might not see the best of him here (under Pardew)- I think people would be surprised at just how good he would look in a Swansea/Liverpool style team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Was never going to look good in a game like last night, especially with us set up the way we were. So you must have a low estimation of him if he is going to struggle at that level of opposition ,a good footballer or team unless they are having an off day should not be made to look s*** off Morecambe .Tbh i do not rate him that highly and his injury record has followed him from France . Morecambe wanted a physical,direct game and they got what they wanted (despite Pardew's pre-match comments). His passing ability and technical qualities are never likely to come to the fore in such a situation. Marveaux is up there with our best players in terms of natural ability imo, but we might not see the best of him here (under Pardew)- I think people would be surprised at just how good he would look in a Swansea/Liverpool style team. We can and do make good players turn shit overnight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 some talent yes, effort no. You'd think his far superior technical ability would shine through against a league 2 side regardless of whether he likes playing on the wing or not. Fact is I've yet to see anything on any sort of consistent basis that show's why he's worth all the praise he gets on here. Flashe's here and there aren't enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I think he's perhaps the best example of the failing French experiment. Technically superior, easily worth his place in the squad and often the Xl due to shoddy competition, but ultimately completely without some of the imperative ingredients needed to perform well in the PL. Before anyone tags a needless stature stereotype to this post I'd urge you to compare him to the smaller Spanish players I see who are often frankly excellent off the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Should 'never wear the shirt again' according to The Mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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