Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Mike, wrong, absolutely wrong. No one would blame him to jump if we relegated, but he, as a captain, deserve to be burnt to death for jumping ship during our relegation fight. I will lose all my respect on him if there is no wife illness etc. He is a captain, fucking hell. I just can't do it. He's made it clear well before the end of the window he doesn't want to be a part of this again. So it's the responsibility of the club to bring in a suitable replacement. Honestly, whenever he made it clear that he wanted out (assuming we go down) he would catch shit for it. Captain or not, his heart isn't in the fight and he wants out. I respect him for being semi honest about it. I don't care if he stays in San Lorenzo for four months and then comes back to Europe. He didn't betray us. Any player coming into the club this month know what they're in for over the next five months and what's expected of them, so we have an opportunity to move forward with players that are up for the fight, rather then hoping for occasional moments of pure class from a man that just doesn't seem to want to go through it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm still clinging to the fact he will stay until summer, we will be safe from relegation and he ends his career with us. I'll be upset with the man who's supposedly our captain who doesn't want to fight, even if it means he helps lead us I safety and then bows out. Thank you and goodbye. But leaving now when we are in this state? Not what a true pro does to his club that pays him handsomely and gives him the armband. If he's upset with those running and managing the club, fine - but don't jump ship on us yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 He turns 31 tomorrow. Who lets their father talk for them at that age? Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 So basically according to that the only reason is that Colo wants to be at the same club as his dad. No thanks. "SSN: Newcastle Hire Colo's dad. Guess who wins again." that smiley, you sly dog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm still clinging to the fact he will stay until summer, we will be safe from relegation and he ends his career with us. I'll be upset with the man who's supposedly our captain who doesn't want to fight, even if it means he helps lead us I safety and then bows out. Thank you and goodbye. But leaving now when we are in this state? Not what a true pro does to his club that pays him handsomely and gives him the armband. If he's upset with those running and managing the club, fine - but don't jump ship on us yet. I think I'm more cynical than you. He gets paid to do a job, and he does it. He's done all he's required to do. It would be something completely different if he was holding out or something. He shows up week in and week out and gets it done. That's the extent of his obligation. If he wants to go, that's fine. Work out the best arrangement for both parties and move on. If the captain of a club was obligated to eat whatever old shit the club served up and tell us how the peanuts taste, no one would wear the fucking thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm firmly convinced contracts don't mean squat in pro sports football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm firmly convinced contracts don't mean squat in pro sports. Contracts are only contracts until they're shit. Wait until holdouts make it across the water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I don't care if he stays in San Lorenzo for four months and then comes back to Europe. Yeah, to Liverpool. You'd love that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 I'm firmly convinced contracts don't mean squat in pro sports. Contracts are only contracts until they're shit. Wait until holdouts make it across the water. And lockouts too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Won't be an American for 200 yards and they'll blame us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 An EPL lockout would be unbelievable. I genuinely think the country would burn to the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 An EPL lockout would be unbelievable. I genuinely think the country would burn to the ground. Rise, Conference National. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 An EPL lockout would be unbelievable. I genuinely think the country would burn to the ground. Rise, Conference National. Rise, guillotines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Pro sports operate in an alternate reality where people can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Pro sports operate in an alternate reality where people can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want to do. There's only a handful of people in the world that can do what they do. So if they're the cream of the crop of that handful, they can write their own tickets for a decade or more. This is why loyalty to anything other than the laundry is just asking to be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well this is easily the page with the most I've read recently in the football forum and quite frankly that takes some amazing doing. Chicos muy bueno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6450/coloa.png Mildly humourous. Imagine that on the yellow ticker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Disco reading anything remotely trans-Atlantic in nature http://gifs.gifbin.com/1238157980_scanners_-_head_explosion.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well this is easily the page with the most I've read recently in the football forum and quite frankly that takes some amazing doing. Chicos muy bueno. This is what happens when you stay up until 2am. Every thread is like stepping into the MLS thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Except he's got a contractual obligation. Yeah, no doubt. He's honoring his contract by coming to the games and training. So we can leave it here, and wonder if we're getting 100 percent from a guy that wants to leave when we can't afford to wonder that, or we can thank him for the years and get the best deal and move on. No need to hate, no feeling betrayed. Just a stoic acceptance that our passion is a business. What he's asking for is nowhere close to the best financial deal for both parties. That's probably why he's still here (<- not sarcasm, or passive aggressive. Looks dickish.). Get a replacement in and sort it out before the end of the window, or get a replacement in and use him when you have to. I get it, but it just goes along with how far pro sports are removed from the real world. Employees running the show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Well this is easily the page with the most I've read recently in the football forum and quite frankly that takes some amazing doing. Chicos muy bueno. This is what happens when you stay up until 2am. Every thread is like stepping into the MLS thread. http://senseslost.com/third-rail-content/uploads/we-own-the-night.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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