ATB Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There are far worse players than him. I think he is starting to improve some bits of his game. Sick of this now. Going to the bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There are far worse players than him. I think he is starting to improve some bits of his game. Sick of this now. Going to the bed. Realistically how much do you think he needs to improve to become a competent player? Not effective, competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 There are far worse players than him. I think he is starting to improve some bits of his game. Sick of this now. Going to the bed. Aye but they play for pub teams, not Premiership teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Pretty sure he doesn't pick himself, that's now more annoying to me than how he performs. He's not good enough and we've known this for some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Pretty sure he doesn't pick himself, that's now more annoying to me than how he performs. He's not good enough and we've known this for some time. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pintofscottsellers Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Fucking shite Obertan, said it from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Sa.Ameobi, Roman, Marveaux, Vuckic or Ferguson should be getting his game time now. They might improve/become an asset to us. We're on a hiding to nothing with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I don't think he is ever going to sort himself out enough to the point where he can take the team that finished 5th last season forward. On that basis he isn't really good enough IMO. I will stick with him whilst he is here and hope he can a) prove me wrong or b) become a more effective player for us. I think his best effect for the team lies in coming on from the bench around 70-80 minutes. Possibly better to bring him on in games we are chasing as I think Shola is a better out ball if we are winning. I would say however that he has started to use his raw pace more recently. If he can keep that part of his game simple he will get around 5 chances per match to put a ball in to a decent area. Only need one to come off and that's a good contribution. Thought he didn't look particularly up for it today either not so much in his offensive play just a couple of times when he wasn't pressing anywhere near enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Such a fucking simple pull back opportunity for Cabaye at the end. Hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the fuck Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a shit touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the fuck Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a shit touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. I don't even remember us having the ball at all in that Spurs game tbf. We must have had it six times to kick off but I'm not convinced we touched it more than twelve times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the f*** Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a s*** touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. Arsenal (away) was the game that came to mind, when he was played in a withdrawn role behind Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The fans excuse is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. People who whatched him in Manchester United had given up on him then. He's just not good enough, and it's got nothing to do with the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_D Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. What a load of old toss. Fans gave up on Perch too and he's doing ok. I suppose the fans make him pick the wrong ball every friggin time too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've tried to have patience with him but just not seeing any improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've tried to have patience with him but just not seeing any improvement. Cause there isnt any. He seems like a decent lad, but his footballing intellegence is not good enough, and that will probably not change. Also, the excuse with fans getting on his back, as someone else stated, look at Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This guy can have the world at his feet if it weren't for his outrageously limited brain and decision making. Whatever he has in his locker in terms of pace, skill and technique is rendered moot by his shockingly woeful timing and decisions. I keep thinking this is something that can be coached into him with time, but whenever he looks like improving a tiny little bit, he goes and puts in a cameo like the one we saw yesterday. Can't believe someone like Amalfitano who has shown desire and application every time he's played for us can't get 10 minutes ahead of Obertan in yesterday's scenario. Not much hope for him now imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The only thing he's got going for him is that it was Pardew's decision to buy him and not Carr's recommendation. Don't think Pardew's going to give up on him anytime soon either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Such a f***ing simple pull back opportunity for Cabaye at the end. Hopeless. or ba. out 3 choices he chose the wrong one...again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This "the talent is clearly there" nonsense needs to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Out of chances imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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