henke Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Weak as piss in every way. So he had a decent game today, whoop de doo. If Schalke put their girl guides side out and they fancied it Obertan would cry off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The only possible role, and even then it's a long shot, this bloke has at the club is to be put on the bench and brought on to exploit his pace against tired defences when we need a goal. The odd flash here or there doesn't erase the countless appearances where he's been fucking dreadful. He is what he is and he's not going to get any better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The only possible role, and even then it's a long shot, this bloke has at the club is to be put on the bench and brought on to exploit his pace against tired defences when we need a goal. The odd flash here or there doesn't erase the countless appearances where he's been fucking dreadful. He is what he is and he's not going to get any better. That role could and should be given to Ben Arfa who actually has the balls to perform against the big boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The only job I'd have him in at NUFC would be a scarecrow at SJP when they're repairing the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The only possible role, and even then it's a long shot, this bloke has at the club is to be put on the bench and brought on to exploit his pace against tired defences when we need a goal. The odd flash here or there doesn't erase the countless appearances where he's been fucking dreadful. He is what he is and he's not going to get any better. That role could and should be given to Ben Arfa who actually has the balls to perform against the big boys. On the contrary, a fit and motivated Ben Arfa should be starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Oh ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 He's got a heart the size of a pea (and a head the size of a planet), no wonder he puts in his best performances in Mickey Mouse games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It'll always be the same story with Obertan, he's got the tools to be an effective player but he lacks belief and his caution causes him to make the wrong decisions. As a regular in a slightly easier league he'd be decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I'd shake Fergies hand and concede to him personally that he was indeed the greatest manager ever just for the simple fact that he got Man U a fee for the useless cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It'll always be the same story with Obertan, he's got the tools to be an effective player but he lacks belief and his caution causes him to make the wrong decisions. As a regular in a slightly easier league he'd be decent. He's a player who doesn't strike the ball well at all and makes bad decisions in possession. He could be incredibly confident and still be abject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 He's not good enough technically or mentally... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/alan-pardew-says-gabriel-obertans-7556415 http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrlk0uVpsD1qar7nho7_500.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It'll always be the same story with Obertan, he's got the tools to be an effective player but he lacks belief and his caution causes him to make the wrong decisions. As a regular in a slightly easier league he'd be decent. He's a player who doesn't strike the ball well at all and makes bad decisions in possession. He could be incredibly confident and still be abject. Disagree there like. He made better decisions on the ball in this friendly tournament and strike a better shot than I've seen him do in two years in the premier. Confidence is a massive factor IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It'll always be the same story with Obertan, he's got the tools to be an effective player but he lacks belief and his caution causes him to make the wrong decisions. As a regular in a slightly easier league he'd be decent. He's a player who doesn't strike the ball well at all and makes bad decisions in possession. He could be incredibly confident and still be abject. Disagree there like. He made better decisions on the ball in this friendly tournament and strike a better shot than I've seen him do in two years in the premier. Confidence is a massive factor IMO. tend to agree on the confidence thing, he doesn't seem capable of handling pressure in the slightest and whatever confidence he has seems to drain out him him if he makes a mistake. In theory he'd be almost the ideal player to bring on mid 2nd half to just scare the hell out of tired defenders with his pace but as of yet he's almost never used that pace effectively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I thought he's had a great pre season, personally I've no problem with that, seems like some people he do. If he keeps it up and forces his way into the first team and stays there on merit, then we should be happy about that, if he's decided he wants to be a successful footballer that'll be great for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 He wont be good enough. I'll eat my s*** and throw it up and eat it again if he has a great season. People don't have a problem with his preseason, the problem is that they/i see that Pards will play him in many games despite not being up for it, just cause he's played well against poor players/ in friendlies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It'll always be the same story with Obertan, he's got the tools to be an effective player but he lacks belief and his caution causes him to make the wrong decisions. As a regular in a slightly easier league he'd be decent. He's a player who doesn't strike the ball well at all and makes bad decisions in possession. He could be incredibly confident and still be abject. Disagree there like. He made better decisions on the ball in this friendly tournament and strike a better shot than I've seen him do in two years in the premier. Confidence is a massive factor IMO. It's a friendly. Alan O'Brien looked a decent winger for us in pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 I bet even Andy O'Brien could look decent on the wing in pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 He wont be good enough. I'll eat my s*** and throw it up and eat it again if he has a great season. People don't have a problem with his preseason, the problem is that they/i see that Pards will play him in many games despite not being up for it, just cause he's played well against poor players/ in friendlies quoted just in case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Blokes been in the gym doing nothing but upper back exercises by the looks of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 He was the best player on the pitch by a mile yesterday. However the ability to get away from opposition defenders and carry the ball forward in any sort of incisive thrust into opposing territory will risk losing possession and will not be tolerated by Pardew. Until he reverts to his old way of turning round and passing it back or sideways to where the mass of our defensive formation is he will have no chance of starting a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 That might be the most original post I've seen in a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 He's always been decent in low-pressure situations like a meaningless friendly. Stick in front of a crowd at SJP in a PL game, when we're chasing a goal, and he turns to fucking mush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 25 years old this year. Some human beings just take longer to mature, and find that confidence. I'd be delighted if that turns out to be the case with him. Looks a lot more physical, and wasn't as tentative, using his strength more. I liked that a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 You can't coach somebody not to be a shithouse though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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