Dave Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 He put the ball into a good area though, all he'd have to do is that a few times a match and it would be hard to complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Far more than Jonas did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 IMO that cross for Ba's goal is a prime example of bad wingplay. He was away down the right and had the perfect oppotunity to whip it in across the 6 yard box with either his first or second touch (so two opportunities), we had two players running into the box (Ben Arfa near post, Ba goalside of his marker at the back post) at this point so he should have put that ball in with the two of them open. Furthermore Ben Arfa then drops back, providing a perfect opportunity for a cut-back as he's unmarked (similar to the first goal) - so that's the third opportunity. Yet Obertan, on his own planet, slows down and waits for defenders to get into position whilst he does his stepovers. The fact that we scored is entirely down to a combination of Ba's prowess, Cahill being very slow to react to a ball he should have comfortably dealt with (possibly a slip or off balance), and probably a big slice of luck, as it looked deflected/took a strange bounce into the top corner. It was Simpson not Ben Arfa who dropped off. Ben Arfa was further back behind ba & he played it directly into the path Ba made his run into. Theres nothing to criticize about it if it works, fair enough if it doesnt. No chance you can call it bad wingplay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Obertan slated for creating scoring opportunities now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Obertan slated for creating scoring opportunities now I know right. The stupid boy got an assist, but it was the wrong assist! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Obertan slated for creating scoring opportunities now I know right. The stupid boy got an assist, but it was the wrong assist! Yes coz that what is being said. Look at the replay, what is being said is that he had loads of time and space to put the ball in early, coz Tiote's pass had taken out the nearest defender to him. Instead when in acres of space, he checked back did a few step overs and then puts it in. Fair enough he got the assist but if he keeps slowing down the play and not putting the ball in early, then he won't get too many. New rule that we can't criticize a player if he gets an assist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Can't really knock the lad for putting a ball into a dangerous area and Ba scoring off it! He could have played the ball earlier but there's always the chance it'll be blocked by the full back. And to play it earlier would be to put the ball in at a different angle. It's hard to whip it in with pace and get a good curl on the ball. If you fancy yourself to get closer to the byline and still put the ball in then it's going to be harder to defend than a cross from deep where the defender has everything in front of him as does the keeper. The closer you get to the byline, the more defenders are worried about the cut-back as well as the ball across the 6 yard box and that gives strikers options and terrifies defenders. So I can't knock him for wanting to get closer to the byline and putting a ball in. If he keeps doing that we'll get goals. Overall he was very hit and miss and until the assist I thought he'd had a poor game like most of the team. He was an outlet with his pace, always looked for the ball and was very involved in the game but was wasteful. Seems stupid to try and put down his one contribution to the match though, simply because he didn't put it on a plate or give Ba an easy tap in. I'm sure Ba isn't complaining about the delivery. Obertan's gonna continue to frustrate and divide fans' opinions but I don't think he's a player to give up on yet. He's young and learning the game. I remember when many of our fans slated Milner repeatedly for getting to the byline and not putting the ball in, instead he preferred to skin his man again and again and show off and the attacks broke down. He was a constant source of frustration and divided fans. It was a genuine problem in Milner's game for a couple of seasons and it took him a long time to learn the game and play his best football. When he began to play to his strengths and play for the team he ended up at Man City. In time I think Obertan will get better, this is his first real run of games in the Premier League. He's a completely different player to Milner but you get my point, some players need time to see their potential and fans write them off very early. I remember when people questioned Bale's ability too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Harsh to blame him for the build up to the assist imo. That said, I thought he was wasteful for most of the game, as he has been so many times before. He just doesn't do things simple and effectively. Such a shame when you look at his pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 His first touch is surprisingly brilliant. I don't think he's given the ball away with his first touch at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 ........as long as he receives the ball along the ground. Some of his touches when he tries to control Cabayes long passes have been abysmal, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 New rule that we can't criticize a player if he gets an assist? No there isn't. But you're criticising him for the move that led to the assist though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 About ten people near me were booing him when he clapped the fans at the end, fucking embarrassing like. He's not great by any stretch, but there is no need for that. Wasn't sarcastic jeering either, full on booing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 He's really bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 About ten people near me were booing him when he clapped the fans at the end, fucking embarrassing like. He's not great by any stretch, but there is no need for that. Wasn't sarcastic jeering either, full on booing Sorry like but this is disgraceful. Our fans can be fucking wankers at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 yeah that's pathetic, at least during the game you've got an excuse of being caught up in the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 About ten people near me were booing him when he clapped the fans at the end, f***ing embarrassing like. He's not great by any stretch, but there is no need for that. Wasn't sarcastic jeering either, full on booing Sorry like but this is disgraceful. Our fans can be f***ing wankers at times. I did chirp up and say which cunts are booing him, few lads in the row behind shut up. Wasn't many, but there shouldn't be any fans booing a player, after a 2-0 away win and getting an assist, regardless of how poor he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I dare say that you'd be pretty fucked off if you were going to clap the fans after an away win in which you set up the second goal and some cunts were booing you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Probably, but you'd like to think that Obertan took the approximate IQs of the fans who were booing him into consideration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I dare say that you'd be pretty fucked off if you were going to clap the fans after an away win in which you set up the second goal and some cunts were booing you. Let's hope it's enough to make him leave then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 About ten people near me were booing him when he clapped the fans at the end, fucking embarrassing like. He's not great by any stretch, but there is no need for that. Wasn't sarcastic jeering either, full on booing Sorry like but this is disgraceful. Our fans can be fucking wankers at times. agreed. not on that, especially when he's contributed to a win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 About ten people near me were booing him when he clapped the fans at the end, f***ing embarrassing like. He's not great by any stretch, but there is no need for that. Wasn't sarcastic jeering either, full on booing Absolutely no need for that especially when we had just won and he contributed to that with an assist. Idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Cabaye was told to 'fuck off and not come back' during the Arsenal game, and Ba was called 'shite and slow'. Sounds like Oba gets off lightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Cabaye was told to 'fuck off and not come back' during the Arsenal game, and Ba was called 'shite and slow'. Sounds like Oba gets off lightly. fucking hell who is behind that nonsense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Some arsehole who sits in front of me and got both barrels. He's barely said a word since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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