Jack Flash Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Sa.Ameobi, Roman, Marveaux, Vuckic or Ferguson should be getting his game time now. They might improve/become an asset to us. We're on a hiding to nothing with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Such a fucking simple pull back opportunity for Cabaye at the end. Hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the fuck Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a shit touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the fuck Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a shit touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. I don't even remember us having the ball at all in that Spurs game tbf. We must have had it six times to kick off but I'm not convinced we touched it more than twelve times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 His decision making pisses me off royally pretty much every time he takes to the field, but also his lack of bottle and the fact that he often misplaces short passes and his touch is so heavy makes me wonder how the f*** Man U ever decided to sign him, let alone us. I'd love to see a stat from some choice games of number of times NUFC lose possession vs number of times Obertan is involved in breakdown of possession (either through a bad pass or a s*** touch) as a ratio. Games such as the Arsenal and Spurs away games last season and the away leg at Atromitos this season I'd wager it would be well over two-thirds. Arsenal (away) was the game that came to mind, when he was played in a withdrawn role behind Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The fans excuse is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. People who whatched him in Manchester United had given up on him then. He's just not good enough, and it's got nothing to do with the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_D Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Fans pretty much gave up on him after 5 games. Been fighting a losing battle since. A pity, as the talent is there but there is no way he will build up any confidence at this club now as fans just jump on his back after any perceived mistake, even if the movement of the forwards is largely to blame for a significant amount of his crosses that don't find a player. What a load of old toss. Fans gave up on Perch too and he's doing ok. I suppose the fans make him pick the wrong ball every friggin time too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've tried to have patience with him but just not seeing any improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I've tried to have patience with him but just not seeing any improvement. Cause there isnt any. He seems like a decent lad, but his footballing intellegence is not good enough, and that will probably not change. Also, the excuse with fans getting on his back, as someone else stated, look at Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This guy can have the world at his feet if it weren't for his outrageously limited brain and decision making. Whatever he has in his locker in terms of pace, skill and technique is rendered moot by his shockingly woeful timing and decisions. I keep thinking this is something that can be coached into him with time, but whenever he looks like improving a tiny little bit, he goes and puts in a cameo like the one we saw yesterday. Can't believe someone like Amalfitano who has shown desire and application every time he's played for us can't get 10 minutes ahead of Obertan in yesterday's scenario. Not much hope for him now imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The only thing he's got going for him is that it was Pardew's decision to buy him and not Carr's recommendation. Don't think Pardew's going to give up on him anytime soon either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Such a f***ing simple pull back opportunity for Cabaye at the end. Hopeless. or ba. out 3 choices he chose the wrong one...again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 This "the talent is clearly there" nonsense needs to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Out of chances imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 i think hes actually been okay this season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Feel a bit sorry for him. I didn't think he was too bad in his brief cameo yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 He just does not know what to do when confronted with one or two defenders, he just slows down and cant think what to do. The ammount of times I have shouted "drive into the box" or "put the ball over now" is unreal. Decision making isn't something you can teach a player. I thought he might have made something of time he has had with us and more time on the pitch but it hasn't happened. Id rather we sold the lad on and tried to pick up some young talent from the lower leagues. I think Obertan is more suited to the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I didn't think he was too bad in his brief cameo yesterday. Me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think Obertan is more suited to the Championship. This, he's not a premier league player. The 'fans' argument and all that is shit. He's been given a great many more chances than many would be given and he's only shown one or two useful bits of skill/passing/crosses in all his time here. Running forwards a lot and winning a corner is not good enough, especially when he fucks up doing it more often than not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I think Obertan is more suited to the Championship. This, he's not a premier league player. The 'fans' argument and all that is s***. He's been given a great many more chances than many would be given and he's only shown one or two useful bits of skill/passing/crosses in all his time here. Running forwards a lot and winning a corner is not good enough, especially when he f***s up doing it more often than not Ive got nowt against him, If i was him I would have joined NUFC to try and build a career in the prem. I just dont think he can make decisions in and around the box, you cant teach a player this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 No, sadly you can't teach someone decision making or natural vision. If you lack confidence then of course it can affect you but he's been here over a year now and not produced anything close to PL quality. When he first arrived, I stood up for him when loads of people said he was shit and a bad buy, sadly, I was wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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