HawK Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Why is it Obertan's fault that Cabella isn't getting game time? Wow :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Obertan should be ahead of Gouffran at the minute with Cabella in the side also imo. I'd be going with something like Tiote, Anita & Sissoko with those two playing around Cisse on current form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Obertan should be ahead of Gouffran at the minute with Cabella in the side also imo. I'd be going with something like Tiote, Anita & Sissoko with those two playing around Cisse on current form. This. It's not rocket science. It just continues to re-affirm that Pardew is a cowardly impostor who will play his favorites no matter what, putting his ego ahead of what's best for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 cabella's learning how to impress the boss mind, he put in that good tackle in the short time he was on the pitch the other day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Why is it Obertan's fault that Cabella isn't getting game time? It isn't. It's Pardew's fault, but then it's Obertan's fault that he's a shit coward. The two things are intrinsically linked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Like a new signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It was clear that his pace caused problems for Leicester throughout the game, especially on the break. Pace is something we've been sorely missing for a long time. Unfortunately 9 times out of 10 he did something daft like leave the ball behind, mis-control it or not release it quickly enough. Having said that, I'd be happy enough for him to stay in the first team if he keeps causing the opposition problems but I reckon he'll retreat back into his shell again once we play someone decent. Of course the ideal scenario would be for Pardew to get the boot and us to recruit a manager who can get our team of international players to play a decent brand of football so we don't need to have the likes of Obertan anywhere near the first team. Pipe dream..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 It was clear that his pace caused problems for Leicester throughout the game, especially on the break. Pace is something we've been sorely missing for a long time. Unfortunately 9 times out of 10 he did something daft like leave the ball behind, mis-control it or not release it quickly enough. Having said that, I'd be happy enough for him to stay in the first team if he keeps causing the opposition problems but I reckon he'll retreat back into his shell again once we play someone decent. Of course the ideal scenario would be for Pardew to get the boot and us to recruit a manager who can get our team of international players to play a decent brand of football so we don't need to have the likes of Obertan anywhere near the first team. Pipe dream..... exactly, he's one of the shittest players in the league at using his pace so the way he uses it is only ever likely to work against the shittest teams in the division and why he's never scored against anyone good for us and probably never will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Alan Pardew has warned Premier League defences that Gabriel Obertan can be “unplayable” this season - if he retains his current levels of confidence. The Toon manager revealed that he has been privately working on the former Bordeaux and Man United winger’s morale. And he feels that after seeing him grab the winner against Leicester City he can prove to be a thorn in the side of Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday (1.30pm kick off). Pardew is delighted to see him bounce back but admitted that he was up for sale last season. He said: “Let’s just say that events last year when we weren’t winning and he wasn’t in the team were such that we might have listened to offers for him. “But when he came back in pre-season and we’d assembled a new squad, I knew he could be part of it – I told him that. From the moment we set foot into pre-season I have been trying to build his confidence.” Pardew felt that Obertan was a key man in the season when the Magpies finished fifth. He saw him as the outlet on the wing who could take some of the pressure away from his side. Pardew reflected: “This is a player that played a big part in the season when we finished fifth. “He’s not been the same since that year because he’s had injuries and he’s in and out. He’s a confidence player. “When he has confidence he can be unplayable at times. He’s created the moments for us at times.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He was shit even in that unbeaten run at the start of 2011/12, I can remember everyone dying to see Marveaux given a game because Obertan had been so poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 He was s*** even in that unbeaten run at the start of 2011/12, I can remember everyone dying to see Marveaux given a game because Obertan had been so poor. Not in Pardew's history! If Obertan is such a good player, then why hasn't he really featured much in recent history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Obertan played a big part when we finished 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 What utter bollocks. Christ this bloke is fucking clueless...'unplayable'. Holy shit, he should be sacked for this utter tosh alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Find it really odd when football fans don't have the courage of their convictions and will change their minds completely upon seeing one performance. He is fucking dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I've been surprised by Obertan the last few games and he deserves his place for creating and scoring goals, which not many others are doing right now. Pardew though once again comes out with some ludicrous comments that are detached from reality. We played much better in the 5th place season once Obertan was dropped for Ben Arfa, simple as that. I think a good manager would be in a very nice position at Newcastle with our squad. If you look at it the right way, there's quality, but very few big names. There are barely any undropable players. You'd say Krul, Janmaat, Coloccini, Tiote and Cisse probably have to play. Even then you could drop one of them for very bad form if it came to it. There are at least six places up for grabs at all times. A good manager would just play whoever is in the best form. At present Obertan warrants one of those places, Gouffran doesn't. I'd say if he was giving Cabella and Perez a regular 20 minutes from the bench then that would be okay for now. They both look raw for the premier league and need time both on and off the pitch. I'd definitely say one of them would play better than Gouffran right now. I just dislike the way Pardew plays favourites. We should be making people fight for their place and let them know they aren't sure of a spot. That way maybe that extra few % of effort might be brought out of them. If Obertan was picked for that reason I'd be fine with it, but we all know he's picked because he's one of Pardew's trusted lackies who still backs him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 It's amazing what having no competition can do for your standing in the squad. Hiding in the shadows like a coward for years really pays off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Definitely this season's Gosling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 It's amazing what having no competition can do for your standing in the squad. Hiding in the shadows like a coward for years really pays off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Definitely this season's Gosling. Gosling? Obertan achieved far more scoring the winning goal for NUFC last weekend than Gosling ever did in his time with the club. Obertan is shit but not Gosling shit! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Obertan should be ahead of Gouffran at the minute with Cabella in the side also imo. I'd be going with something like Tiote, Anita & Sissoko with those two playing around Cisse on current form. What has Caballa done to warrant a start? Been poor so far. Gouffran is shit as well so either could easily be left out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Cabella vs Gouffran. As if that's a choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Definitely this season's Gosling. Gosling? Obertan achieved far more scoring the winning goal for NUFC last weekend than Gosling ever did in his time with the club. Obertan is shit but not Gosling shit! Please. How many trophies has Obertan won with us? You're forgetting Gozza's performance in the 4-0 against Chelsea too. Was something to behold that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Tbh, I would have rated Gosling above Obertan prior to this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Nah anyone would think gosling was a professional dodgeball player. At least Corinthian heed can run at players once in a blue moon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Cabella vs Gouffran. As if that's a choice. depends on your outlook and what you want the player to do, if it's track back and cover the fullback and have virtually zero attacking impact then there's certainly a choice to be made between the two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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