Stottie Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Perchie did well aye. Part of their joy down our left was from a strong and positive first half from Sagna. He's class. Possibly they were set up to attack that side and drag Colo out, leaving Williamson on van Persie. That's how they scored anyway. They didn't seem so intent on attacking Simpson with Chamberlain, a just as tasty 1 vs. 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 You are probably right, the 2nd half was a bit of a blur really and I have no desire to re-watch it The sooner we buy a left back the better, would be criminal if we fail to do so in the summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been subbed early twice now, but he is not playing well and I can see him being on the bench on Sunday, he is in no way a LB and to be honest I don't see how he would/could be a RB. Looks like he could be a half decent winger but as a defender no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I thought Perch played well. Perch was a lot better than Santon. I think its going to take Santon a good year to settle in. Doesnt seem to know how to play left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 It's a lot easier to play full back when you've given up on attempting to play football, as we did in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been subbed early twice now, but he is not playing well and I can see him being on the bench on Sunday, he is in no way a LB and to be honest I don't see how he would/could be a RB. Looks like he could be a half decent winger but as a defender no way. Really? Barring 3 or 4 games this season I think he's been top notch both defensively and from an attacking point of view. Granted, yesterday he was very poor and Perchy did well when he came on. I am not convinced by him at all, not calling his work rate, I could play and work hard but I would be utter shite. I am questioning his ability as a defender, if he remains our first choice LB next season we are in big reouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I don't think Santon was even that bad, sure, Walcott got the better of him a couple times but nothing really came from it anyway. Perch sitting deep the whole of the second half made it much easier for Arsenal to press us on the left flank, if anything (not that Perch played badly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been subbed early twice now, but he is not playing well and I can see him being on the bench on Sunday, he is in no way a LB and to be honest I don't see how he would/could be a RB. Looks like he could be a half decent winger but as a defender no way. Really? Barring 3 or 4 games this season I think he's been top notch both defensively and from an attacking point of view. Granted, yesterday he was very poor and Perchy did well when he came on. I am not convinced by him at all, not calling his work rate, I could play and work hard but I would be utter s****. I am questioning his ability as a defender, if he remains our first choice LB next season we are in big reouble. OK, that's your opinion, but personally I have a lot of confidence in him as a defender and a left back. He's just had a bad few games thats all. Remember Enrique for his 1st 2 seasons looked just as bad as Santon is at the moment. Much bigger worries in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Decent LB in, Santon to RB, sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been subbed early twice now, but he is not playing well and I can see him being on the bench on Sunday, he is in no way a LB and to be honest I don't see how he would/could be a RB. Looks like he could be a half decent winger but as a defender no way. Really? Barring 3 or 4 games this season I think he's been top notch both defensively and from an attacking point of view. Granted, yesterday he was very poor and Perchy did well when he came on. I am not convinced by him at all, not calling his work rate, I could play and work hard but I would be utter s****. I am questioning his ability as a defender, if he remains our first choice LB next season we are in big reouble. OK, that's your opinion, but personally I have a lot of confidence in him as a defender and a left back. He's just had a bad few games thats all. Remember Enrique for his 1st 2 seasons looked just as bad as Santon is at the moment. Much bigger worries in the squad. Don't think Santon has looked as bad as Enrique did at all. Enrique had a few moments of madness - especially in his first two seasons - but he always looked like a natural defender who'd go on to be something special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think the reason he gets defended by some of us is we can see he has real quality and he's just a young lad. It's totally different to lambasting players like Raylor or Ameobi who are meant to be established professionals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 He had a poor 1st half BUT Perch wasn't much better and that would have been an okay performance by Raylors standards Would like to see him get a run at right back if possible, might just be more suited to that side Santon was gash, Perch played well and meant Jonas could get forward more without having to cover for Santon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Been subbed early twice now, but he is not playing well and I can see him being on the bench on Sunday, he is in no way a LB and to be honest I don't see how he would/could be a RB. Looks like he could be a half decent winger but as a defender no way. Really? Barring 3 or 4 games this season I think he's been top notch both defensively and from an attacking point of view. Granted, yesterday he was very poor and Perchy did well when he came on. He's looked good running with the ball going forward but he can't defend and is terribly right footed for someone being asked to play left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I think the reason he gets defended by some of us is we can see he has real quality and he's just a young lad. It's totally different to lambasting players like Raylor or Ameobi who are meant to be established professionals. Plus i read somewhere that Santon can still only speak basic English (and their upping his lessons). I think it's harsh to criticise him this season as he's just pretty much came here. It was the same with Enrique/Colo etc when they all first joined, he'll come good next season imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 He was poor last night for me. Still only 21 though (keep forgetting he's this young), you can see with the likes of Jones and Savic ( ) that mistakes and youth go hand in hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreBasedMag Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I gotta think communication is tough for him. The lad does not speak much English at all, which can't help when his biggest liability has been his positioning thus far. It also can't help that he is right footed playing on the left and you constantly cutting in to work the ball onto his right foot. That through ball he had to Ba in the first half is not a pass that any of our other fullbacks are making any time soon. I think we will see him much improved next season as he figures it out, as you can see his potential both on the ball and defensively (at least one on one defending thus far) and the rest should come with time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Don't think his poor understanding of the language has anything to do with it, surely he should know the most simple instructions by now, i'ts not like there's a political debate on the pitch. I think it's more because of us being a shambles of a team when it comes to play football, we invite attack after attack cause we lose the ball all the time and can't keep possession for 10 seconds, no wonder he often looks out of position when he's attacking and we lose the ball. Our movement off the ball has to be one of the worst atm Mostly this and that he hasn't adapted fully yet to the style of football, not very consisten yet. A lot of blabla from me now tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Don't think his poor understanding of the language has anything to do with it, surely he should know the most simple instructions by now, i'ts not like there's a political debate on the pitch. I think it's more because of us being a shambles of a team when it comes to play football, we invite attack after attack cause we lose the ball all the time and can't keep possession for 10 seconds, no wonder he often looks out of position when he's attacking and we lose the ball. Our movement off the ball has to be one of the worst atm Mostly this and that he hasn't adapted fully yet to the style of football, not very consisten yet. A lot of blabla from me now tbh. he goes forward when he gets the chance, like any decent modern full back should yet we have no-one in the teamcapable of saying to themselves "why don't i take up a position where i can be available for the ball if needed or drop into full back should we lose possession" like speed, lee,sellars all did or are we all so stupid we think only the nominated full back is allowed in that position. thats not tactics, it's basic football that some players just don't have the sense to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I gotta think communication is tough for him. The lad does not speak much English at all, which can't help when his biggest liability has been his positioning thus far. It also can't help that he is right footed playing on the left and you constantly cutting in to work the ball onto his right foot. That through ball he had to Ba in the first half is not a pass that any of our other fullbacks are making any time soon. I think we will see him much improved next season as he figures it out, as you can see his potential both on the ball and defensively (at least one on one defending thus far) and the rest should come with time. lol i accept the lad is in a new country for less than a season but to blame his perfomances on language barrier? really?? i mean how many words of english do you need to know in a football match. lol i also don't buy this nonsense of him playing on the wrong side, yes it has some affect on a player, but he cuts in because he chooses , just like when he decides to roam forward, that's his choosing. glenn johnson had no problems playing on the left when he was needed and he didnt find himself cutting in, in fact some of them scouse scums said he played better on the leftside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I gotta think communication is tough for him. The lad does not speak much English at all, which can't help when his biggest liability has been his positioning thus far. It also can't help that he is right footed playing on the left and you constantly cutting in to work the ball onto his right foot. That through ball he had to Ba in the first half is not a pass that any of our other fullbacks are making any time soon. I think we will see him much improved next season as he figures it out, as you can see his potential both on the ball and defensively (at least one on one defending thus far) and the rest should come with time. lol i accept the lad is in a new country for less than a season but to blame his perfomances on language barrier? really?? i mean how many words of english do you need to know in a football match. lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I gotta think communication is tough for him. The lad does not speak much English at all, which can't help when his biggest liability has been his positioning thus far. It also can't help that he is right footed playing on the left and you constantly cutting in to work the ball onto his right foot. That through ball he had to Ba in the first half is not a pass that any of our other fullbacks are making any time soon. I think we will see him much improved next season as he figures it out, as you can see his potential both on the ball and defensively (at least one on one defending thus far) and the rest should come with time. lol i accept the lad is in a new country for less than a season but to blame his perfomances on language barrier? really?? i mean how many words of english do you need to know in a football match. lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_key lol get a life this is a football forum not an application for cambridge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 At least there is a plan B with this lad to convert him to a winger if he continues to struggle in the full back position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 At least there is a plan B with this lad to convert him to a winger if he continues to struggle in the full back position. i think he would very useful as a winger, left or right side. would be a better option than obertan. and when jonas gets injured he may get a chance on the left side as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I've no doubt he'll be the right sided Gareth Bale in a couple of years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I've no doubt he'll be the right sided Gareth Bale in a couple of years he has the attributes, santon is one of a few players we got that can actually dribble and go past players, i dont see it in obertan, marveaux , raylor, . jonas can do it sometimes when he's not busy playing as our auxiliary fullback. obertan has the pace to do it but has no balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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