hakka Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Oh well... I truly thought back in January that we could turn that £35m in to a stronger Newcastle United. Although I'm happy with some of the players we have brought in so far, we have let so many other good performers go that we are still weaker overall. That's unless Ben Arfa shits goals for fun and Vuckic, Sammy and Ferguson all step up and contribute massively more than everyone expects. If Ashley just wants to make his money back then say that from the start when selling Carroll. Why continuously lie? I guess it's all about stringing everyone along so they keep buying season tickets and then when the transfer window shuts just pretend you tried. Can't wait to hear the excuses from the club, I'm sure they will be same ones we've heard before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can someone please dig up the quote where Keegan talks about Ashley & co agreeing a fee with clubs and then lowering the bid? Or have I imagined that happening.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliGupter Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I wonder what neesy thinks of all this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 What the f*** kind of question's that. For a start this year Best has 8 in 13 games in 2011 and Ba has 7 in 14, so if you're getting all bastardy about stats, there's two 1 in 2 goal a game strikers. You said "That core would have us in around that top 8 this season," I would have thought that goals might be needed if we're to reach that position. Where do you think the goals are going to come from? Fair enough if you think we'll get 38 goals between Best and Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 This place is going to be like Hiroshima tomorrow. You'll see the smoke for miles.... There's absolutely nothing wrong with the OP either. Yep - some people on here are hellbent on defending the regime at all costs. Nothing wrong with the OP. Surprised a pardewism thread hasn't appeared with a summary of his lies. Is not possible for people to have slightly different opinions like? FWIW, I'm really disappointed about not getting a striker, but I'm pretty happy about getting Santon. So it's a mixed picture, I'm not hellbent on defending anything. It's not really a mixed picture. Santon is an Enrique replacement, almost certainly not an improvement. Carroll's replacement is non-existent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post. Quite frankly anyone who thinks there is, is thick as mince. To the person on the opening page who came out with the soopafan nonsense (can't be arsed to check who it was) have a word with yourself for fuck sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Anyone who isn't directing vile abuse towards Mike Ashley needs to sort there craic out. and who isn't? This is the point, just because we dont believe everything those players reckoned doesn't mean we dont hate Ashley, i certainly do. It's not even that mate. I believe the players more than I'd believe the fans or journos, as they actually worked for the club, and knew more about the way it was run than anyone else did!! I just don't see the point in bringing it up. Instead of posting quotes from Keegan and Enrique on a message board, protest with your feet! You can sit here pining for King Kev and lapping up everything he says all you want. It won't change the fact that Ashley owns this club. I'd much rather be part of a concerted and organized effort to force the c*** out of the club. in favour of what ? also the players you mention, did they ever mention their wages in conjunction with imploring ashley to invest ? Genuinely don't understand what you're asking in relation to my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The sad thing is that a lot on here didn't heed the warnings of the past or such quotes as above and actually thought we'd spend on a striker. Quite cute really that people can still be optimistic despite Ashley' regime continually feeding us lies and broken promises. Even with the lies and broken promises, we have Krul, Santon, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux & Ben Arfa who'll make up the bulk of the squad in the near future...is that not reason enough to be optimistic? Last season we had Krul, Enrique, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Barton, Nolan, Carroll & Ben Arfa making up the bulk of our squad. We could have added the rest for about 10 million. That would have given me a reason to be optimistic. I genunly think some people on here would think "oh well, atleast i'll save money on socks!" if they lost a leg, it's alright been posotive, but to hold such a one way optomistic viewpoint on literaly everything that happens cannot be healthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 What the f*** kind of question's that. For a start this year Best has 8 in 13 games in 2011 and Ba has 7 in 14, so if you're getting all bastardy about stats, there's two 1 in 2 goal a game strikers. You said "That core would have us in around that top 8 this season," I would have thought that goals might be needed if we're to reach that position. Where do you think the goals are going to come from? Fair enough if you think we'll get 38 goals between Best and Ba. I think Best & Ba can get 10 goals each if they play regular, I think Cabaye will score around 6 goals, can see Jonas getting a few more than usual going by the positions he was creating for himself against the Mackems & Fulham. We'll not score as many as last year but we haven't scored that many since Robson anyway I don't think, and I also don't think we'll concede near as many as last year either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The sad thing is that a lot on here didn't heed the warnings of the past or such quotes as above and actually thought we'd spend on a striker. Quite cute really that people can still be optimistic despite Ashley' regime continually feeding us lies and broken promises. Even with the lies and broken promises, we have Krul, Santon, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux & Ben Arfa who'll make up the bulk of the squad in the near future...is that not reason enough to be optimistic? Last season we had Krul, Enrique, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Barton, Nolan, Carroll & Ben Arfa making up the bulk of our squad. We could have added the rest for about 10 million. That would have given me a reason to be optimistic. I genunly think some people on here would think "oh well, atleast i'll save money on socks!" if they lost a leg, it's alright been posotive, but to hold such a one way optomistic viewpoint on literaly everything that happens cannot be healthy. Couldn't give a flying fuck how much we spent, what the "balance book" is if we create a good squad, we could have done with another striker and centre-back but that squad's still good enough to do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post. Quite frankly anyone who thinks there is, is thick as mince. To the person on the opening page who came out with the soopafan nonsense (can't be arsed to check who it was) have a word with yourself for f*** sake. It was I. I've had a word with meself. Keegan is God and from this day forth I shall wank over how right our ex-players and manager were. Thanks for setting me right fella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think its not about Best scoring or not, if we place a halfway decent lad on top, he will score every now and then. The question is, are we really getting to the point were we are happy with a perfectly mediocre tap-in striker? I for one would actually expect us to have a number 1 striker capable of creating something out of nothing, someone who is at least somewhat unplayable on his day. I mean I can accept Lovenkrants going missing like a deer come hunting season since he is ( or ought to be) a #3 sub, but as a clear first choice? During our relegation season Shola would be hard-pressed to even make the bench, nowadays hes one of the first names on the sheet, bloody hell.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think its not about Best scoring or not, if we place a halfway decent lad on top, he will score every now and then. The question is, are we really getting to the point were we are happy with a perfectly mediocre tap-in striker? I for one would actually expect us to have a number 1 striker capable of creating something out of nothing, someone who is at least somewhat unplayable on his day. I mean I can accept Lovenkrants going missing like a deer come hunting season since he is ( or ought to be) a #3 sub, but as a clear first choice? During our relegation season Shola would be hard-pressed to even make the bench, nowadays hes one of the first names on the sheet, bloody hell.. He could easily end up as the third choice behind Ba and Best, and for one position when Ben Arfa is back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think its not about Best scoring or not, if we place a halfway decent lad on top, he will score every now and then. The question is, are we really getting to the point were we are happy with a perfectly mediocre tap-in striker? I for one would actually expect us to have a number 1 striker capable of creating something out of nothing, someone who is at least somewhat unplayable on his day. I mean I can accept Lovenkrants going missing like a deer come hunting season since he is ( or ought to be) a #3 sub, but as a clear first choice? During our relegation season Shola would be hard-pressed to even make the bench, nowadays hes one of the first names on the sheet, bloody hell.. Agreed. Pretty sure Ba and Best will miss large chunks of the season, and that's the real worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The sad thing is that a lot on here didn't heed the warnings of the past or such quotes as above and actually thought we'd spend on a striker. Quite cute really that people can still be optimistic despite Ashley' regime continually feeding us lies and broken promises. Even with the lies and broken promises, we have Krul, Santon, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux & Ben Arfa who'll make up the bulk of the squad in the near future...is that not reason enough to be optimistic? Last season we had Krul, Enrique, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Barton, Nolan, Carroll & Ben Arfa making up the bulk of our squad. We could have added the rest for about 10 million. That would have given me a reason to be optimistic. I genunly think some people on here would think "oh well, atleast i'll save money on socks!" if they lost a leg, it's alright been posotive, but to hold such a one way optomistic viewpoint on literaly everything that happens cannot be healthy. Couldn't give a flying fuck how much we spent, what the "balance book" is if we create a good squad, we could have done with another striker and centre-back but that squad's still good enough to do well. If Ba and HBA play the majority of games perhaps. If it's Best and Lovenkrands however.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceMag Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Gameiro Gervinho Maiga Ruiz Roux Erding All strikers we tried to sign, but failed on every single one. 7 months and we end up with nothing. Embarrassing and disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Micktoon Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Bollocks it. When teams like QPR and Stoke make better moves in the window (and cover positions they needed to) than we do, you have to ask yourself is it worth it. We follow blindly, spend our hard earned, buy the merchandise, buy the pies, pints and programmes. i'll lay my hat that at least 45,000 turn up for the next home . ... and i'm pretty sure that a casino manager and a chancer are laughing their respective arses off. A mate of mine once posted and elaborate conspiracy theory on the chronicle forum that was laughed at, however events of this last year make you think. I wouldn't give a rats ass if they just came out with the truth. It's the constant stream of lies and inacurracies that fuck me off. I'm done now, not on penny of mine goes into the club until they fuck off. If it means the next time i see the toon they're in the conference, i'll turn up with a big fucking smile. FFS why can't they call a fucking spade a spade, i for one would give the useless fuckers a damn site more respect. But come on how much longer are we going to allow this level of ineptitude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 THEY WONDER WHY WE DRINK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The sad thing is that a lot on here didn't heed the warnings of the past or such quotes as above and actually thought we'd spend on a striker. Quite cute really that people can still be optimistic despite Ashley' regime continually feeding us lies and broken promises. Even with the lies and broken promises, we have Krul, Santon, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux & Ben Arfa who'll make up the bulk of the squad in the near future...is that not reason enough to be optimistic? Last season we had Krul, Enrique, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Barton, Nolan, Carroll & Ben Arfa making up the bulk of our squad. We could have added the rest for about 10 million. That would have given me a reason to be optimistic. I genunly think some people on here would think "oh well, atleast i'll save money on socks!" if they lost a leg, it's alright been posotive, but to hold such a one way optomistic viewpoint on literaly everything that happens cannot be healthy. Couldn't give a flying fuck how much we spent, what the "balance book" is if we create a good squad, we could have done with another striker and centre-back but that squad's still good enough to do well. It's good enough to hopefuly maintain what we achieved last season, mid-table mediocrity. Unless we have a shit load of luck, our squad isn't good enough to do any better. The only posotive this season imo is that Ashley may be one step closer to the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Can someone please dig up the quote where Keegan talks about Ashley & co agreeing a fee with clubs and then lowering the bid? Or have I imagined that happening.... VID Thanks And apologies for accusing you of cynicism and tiresomeness. Spot on really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 The sad thing is that a lot on here didn't heed the warnings of the past or such quotes as above and actually thought we'd spend on a striker. Quite cute really that people can still be optimistic despite Ashley' regime continually feeding us lies and broken promises. Even with the lies and broken promises, we have Krul, Santon, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Cabaye, Marveaux & Ben Arfa who'll make up the bulk of the squad in the near future...is that not reason enough to be optimistic? Last season we had Krul, Enrique, Coloccini, Jonas, Tiote, Barton, Nolan, Carroll & Ben Arfa making up the bulk of our squad. We could have added the rest for about 10 million. That would have given me a reason to be optimistic. I genunly think some people on here would think "oh well, atleast i'll save money on socks!" if they lost a leg, it's alright been posotive, but to hold such a one way optomistic viewpoint on literaly everything that happens cannot be healthy. Couldn't give a flying f*** how much we spent, what the "balance book" is if we create a good squad, we could have done with another striker and centre-back but that squad's still good enough to do well. It's good enough to hopefuly maintain what we achieved last season, mid-table mediocrity. Unless we have a s*** load of luck, our squad isn't good enough to do any better. The only posotive this season imo is that Ashley may be one step closer to the door. I thought looking for positives tonight made one thick as mince? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post. Quite frankly anyone who thinks there is, is thick as mince. To the person on the opening page who came out with the soopafan nonsense (can't be arsed to check who it was) have a word with yourself for f*** sake. It was I. I've had a word with meself. Keegan is God and from this day forth I shall wank over how right our ex-players and manager were. Thanks for setting me right fella You facepalmed a guy for making a factual post worthy of discusion. You could have chose to leave the thread and not said a word, but it actualy seems that you've stuck around and joined in with said discusion (which you originaly facepalmed). Odd realy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I could accept being run by either A) Some money spunking rich arsehole or B) A frugal decent chap. But being run by a tight-arse incompetent just doesn't do it for me. I often verge on wishing Ashley would take his entire loan back, fuck off, leave us in financial meltdown, accept which division that would leave us in and at least be able to have some pride in the way the club is run, rather than treading water in the premier league with Mike and Dekka and having to listen to the constant whine of their cheerleaders when people aren't happy with what they serve up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Absolutely nothing wrong with the opening post. Quite frankly anyone who thinks there is, is thick as mince. To the person on the opening page who came out with the soopafan nonsense (can't be arsed to check who it was) have a word with yourself for f*** sake. It was I. I've had a word with meself. Keegan is God and from this day forth I shall w*** over how right our ex-players and manager were. Thanks for setting me right fella You facepalmed a guy for making a factual post worthy of discusion. You could have chose to leave the thread and not said a word, but it actualy seems that you've stuck around and joined in with said discusion (which you originaly facepalmed). Odd realy. I explained myself. If you can't be arsed to read said explanation, then that's your prerogative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I could accept being run by either A) Some money spunking rich arsehole or B) A frugal decent chap. But being run by a tight-arse incompetent just doesn't do it for me. I often verge on wishing Ashley would take his entire loan back, fuck off, leave us in finacial meltdown, accept which division that would leave us in and at least be able to have some pride in the way the club is run, rather than treading water in the premier league with Mike and Dekka and having to listen to the constant whine of their cheerleaders. Top post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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