madras Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It'll be a really tough match cos i think once Villa settle, they'll have a good year. They've looked good in fits and spurts, and with the potential they've got in N'Zogbia and Agbonlahor (whom i still rate hugely), they'll always create chances. Those two off Bent look a bit scary tbh, cos there's a shitload of goals in that triumvirate. Them against our tri-force/breeze-block of Taylor, Colo and Krul will be an intriguing encounter. If the defense is up to it, there's every chance of getting a result. From what i can gather, tonight was the worst performance of the season. However, what's true is that we're cementing this 'absolute-bastards-to-beat' attribute, and whilst Villa have some good players, there's nothing there that leaves me feeling certain that our unbeaten streak will come to an end. Keep up the defensive rigidity... kick up the arse in training... bit more fluidity from an attacking perspective - and i'm very confident of getting a point at the very least. I'm happy for us to rely on our stalwarts to contain the various threats they have, and actually play our game. They're a good side but definitely beatable. Play for a draw, as we (allegedly) did tonight, they'll have more quality to pick us off, unlike QPR. -------------------------------- Krul -------------------------------- Simpson --------- Taylor ---------- Coloccini --------- Santon Obertan -------- Cabaye --------- Tiote --------------- Jonas ------------------------- Ba ---------- Best ------------------------ We can still go 4-4-2... just abandon the Jurassic footballing philosophy. No more hoofball. Defenders on their game, play properly. What's certain is that this game will give us a better bearing on whether or not we've progressed as a side. Three clean sheets and 8 points from 12 suggest so... the performances, granted, do not. Think it'll be a score-draw. the problem with that 442 is we have a lack of movement from the front 2 and neither of the central midfielders are the sort to fill the gap behind our statuesque front 2 which leads to the same problems as last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Krul Simpson Saylor Colo Santon Marveaux Tiote Jonas Cabaye Ba Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Seems a no brainer to me. We are overrun in midfield and not creating goal scoring opportunities for whoever we stick up front. 3 in midfield it has to be with the wings occupied by whoever is playing well in training this week. Im not a Jonas fan anyway, but he looks lost to me at the minute as an attacking force so he would be out. If we dont start creating pretty quickly then we are just going to compound the pressure on the strikers and the rest of the team. I would go with... Krul Simpson -- Taylor -- Colochini -- Santon Tiote --- Cabaye Obertan ------------------------ Marveaux Gosling Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Krul Simpson Saylor Colo Santon Marveaux Tiote Jonas Cabaye Ba Best It will be a 4-4-2 but Cabaye must push on more, I wonder if him staying deep is unsettling Tiote, taking up some of the space he works in. Would 100% start Mav ahead of Obertan though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Seems a no brainer to me. We are overrun in midfield and not creating goal scoring opportunities for whoever we stick up front. 3 in midfield it has to be with the wings occupied by whoever is playing well in training this week. Im not a Jonas fan anyway, but he looks lost to me at the minute as an attacking force so he would be out. If we dont start creating pretty quickly then we are just going to compound the pressure on the strikers and the rest of the team. I would go with... Krul Simpson -- Taylor -- Colochini -- Santon Tiote --- Cabaye Obertan ------------------------ Marveaux Gosling Ba Agree with this, if we were to play with an OCM. Jonas is completely clueless. He really has no idea how to distribute the ball when received. Thing is, I don't rate Obertan any higher than Jonas. He does much of the same with the ball in his feet. He has more pace though, and releases the ball more frequently. And based on those reasons he should play in stead. Wont happen though, of course. Pardew seems to be sticking with his chosen players, even when they've played a joke of a game. Jonas is not the biggest problem concerning that matter though, but rather the two massive clowns, that shall remain unnamed, unable to even look like trying to earn they're fucking laughable paycheck. The frustrating bit is I have a feeling, despite these ridiculous performances, he STILL will have them playing come Saturday. And so, I can't sleep at nights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Had a think and this is what I'd genuinely play: Krul Simpson Colo Taylor Santon Tioté Cabaye Sammy Marveaux Jonas Ba I'd go with this (Best on for Ba if he's looking poor). QPR looked good down our flanks and got some really good crosses over and we should be doing the same. We obviously need much more of an attacking threat and more players who can shoot. The on form Sammy and Marveaux i'm hoping can provide that. Santon looks a real athelete i'm really looking forward to seeing him play he should hopefully take care of whoever attacks down our left and may even push forward to help Jonas. I thought it was poor judgement by Pardew not to bring on Sammy alot earlier than he did against QPR. The kid is on fire banging in goals and creating havoc for the opposition so play him ffs. Its not as if we have alot (any?) attacking flare at the moment. We need to give the opposition defence more problems that is clear. In saying all that we are getting results, but we really rode our luck last night at times and there is still alot of room for improvement. Subs: Harper/Elliott, Raylor,Ferguson Guthrie, Gosling, Obertan, Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Tough game this one - if we allow chances like last night Bent will bury them, although I watched their last home game against Wolves and they were really poor, looked weak in centre midfield (Petrov and Delph) in particular. Would take another draw, keep the unbeaten start going, 1-1 I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Pardew's after match comments (bottom of BBC report) suggests he knows he got it wrong and wants an extra man in midfield, problem is none of Obertan, Marveaux or Jonas (or Cabaye for that matter) are natural at playing "in the hole", so he doesn't seem too keen to do that from the outset. Bit of a dilemma until Ben Arfa is back which might not be too long away. My other worry for this game is that PArdew will see we have Forest on Tuesday and keep Santon back to bed him in in an "easier" game, which would be horrific. Ryan Taylor against Albrighton, N'Zogbia or Agbonlahor is just a disaster waiting to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Marveaux have played the role before. Could at least try him there until the return of HBA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Pardew's after match comments (bottom of BBC report) suggests he knows he got it wrong and wants an extra man in midfield, problem is none of Obertan, Marveaux or Jonas (or Cabaye for that matter) are natural at playing "in the hole", so he doesn't seem too keen to do that from the outset. Bit of a dilemma until Ben Arfa is back which might not be too long away. My other worry for this game is that PArdew will see we have Forest on Tuesday and keep Santon back to bed him in in an "easier" game, which would be horrific. Ryan Taylor against Albrighton, N'Zogbia or Agbonlahor is just a disaster waiting to happen. Play Sammy in the Hole then. He's very creative, tricky, on form, good passer and can score goals. Correct about Santon we need him against Villa we have to restrict their chances. He knows how to play at LB its not as if we are trying him out as a striker/midfielder. Test him out in training against Obertan and play him with Colo and Jonas Tiote and cabaye as much as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 They'd do well to be worse than they were on Saturday. Still can't believe we didn't win. Anyway, 2-1 to Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 krul simpson Taylor colo Santon tiote Marveaux Cabaye Jonas Obertan Ba or Best Keep tiote deep in front of defence....and hit them on the break! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Was at game last night and Ryan Taylor was abominable. Need to get santon on the pitch asap!!! The other two dogs were shola nd simpson, shola just didn't do anything at all to create a bit of danger and simpson looked just bone idle.. Doesn't seem interested or is knackered? I think five in midfield would be a good idea for Villa. Ba looked good when he came on. ---------krul--------- Simps--tayls---colo---santon Obertan--9abaye---tiote--jonas ---------------Gosling or Marveuax -----------Demba--------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I never predict a toon defeat, so I'm going to say 1-0 to us. I never predict draws either, that just shows lack of belief and vision Steven Taylor header in the second half, alot of Villa pressure towards the end, but we hold on and grind out another victory. Class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Imo I reckon Best should be our main striker he seems to have more goal threat about him. His goal against Fulham was class and he can beat players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Imo I reckon Best should be our main striker he seems to have more goal threat about him. His goal against Fulham was class and he can beat players. or Ba... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Not confident about this at all, I hate these lot and we're probably due a loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hate Villa, Hate Villa Park. They have N'zgobia. Lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 -----------------Krul------------------- Simpson - Colo - Saylor - Santon ----------------Tiote------------------- ---------Cabaye - Marveaux-------- Obertan------------------------Jonas ------------------Ba-------------------- Yes. This without doubt for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 -----------------Krul------------------- Simpson - Colo - Saylor - Santon ----------------Tiote------------------- ---------Cabaye - Marveaux-------- Obertan------------------------Jonas ------------------Ba-------------------- Yes. This without doubt for me. without a doubt marveaux in central midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 -----------------Krul------------------- Simpson - Colo - Saylor - Santon ----------------Tiote------------------- ---------Cabaye - Marveaux-------- Obertan------------------------Jonas ------------------Ba-------------------- Yes. This without doubt for me. without a doubt marveaux in central midfield? Yes. More of a free role of course, and he will be longer up the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 "We played with two strikers, it's a small pitch and we took a bit of a gamble that we might be able to boss the two centre-backs, but we didn't really. That extra midfield players that they had allowed them to control the game, I tried to stay with that system, but really it was only my confidence in the back four and the goalkeeper that allowed me to do that. "I thought our flair players were all a bit off their best and that's always going to have an impact. ""I've no intention of bringing a free agent in. I'll go with the group. I think you have to remember I've got Hatem Ben Arfa training now. His imagination and flair on that pitch would have been a big asset for us - hopefully, fingers crossed, in two weeks' time he'll be on that pitch for us." Think he'll change to 4-5-1 this weekend after reading that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 We obviously can't allow Villa all the chances on goal we allowed QPR, Bent is a good poacher, and has good supply, we need to push further up, I'd probably go for -----------------------Krul-------------------------- Simp Colo Taylor Santon Tiote Obertan Cabaye Marveaux Guti Best Think 4-3-3 sacrifices some width, hopefully a 4-1-4-1 will allow us to protect flanks while still not having the same midfield problems as against QPR, of course at expense of attacking threat, but shola didn't convince, can change it up later, and marveau and cabaye should be pretty good in support of Best who is at least on form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Our strikers are far too bad to warrant playing two of them from the start. Definitely the five in midfield for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Shola will start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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