Dave Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Time to either back your manager or sack him Mike, it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Category One status is a must as well. Category one status means f*** all if you have no one of any quality coming through your academy. Carroll aside, we only have Campbell who looks anything sort of quality. Sammy has pace but no final ball, even against Everton his pace didn't seem to be enough. Ranger we bought and shows no promise, Bigi again was bought. Streete, well he's unknown, we all have high hopes for him but we have fallen for that a few times over the last few years. Apart from having a wider catchment area, funding from the FA and (I think) the ability to poach players off clubs who don't have C1 status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I went with 18 as a ball-park figure, you could argue you need more. Then you can have people out on loan, who could then maybe come back later on and offer legitimate depth if they develop with the gametime. Mind, in my perfect world we'd also be playing good football and have a set style of play where young players could drop into without too much strain. Imagine that, ey. You're critique of my post is spot on. I'm not saying those are the concrete lads that should have been kept, I'm saying those lads are decent squad players who if left, should have been replaced with well- what you mentioned in your post you're post is fantastic. I just thought it needed to be said how poorly our board plans for squad depth, why was obvious to all of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I went with 18 as a ball-park figure, you could argue you need more. Then you can have people out on loan, who could then maybe come back later on and offer legitimate depth if they develop with the gametime. Mind, in my perfect world we'd also be playing good football and have a set style of play where young players could drop into without too much strain. Imagine that, ey. You're critique of my post is spot on. I'm not saying those are the concrete lads that should have been kept, I'm saying those lads are decent squad players who if left, should have been replaced with well- what you mentioned in your post you're post is fantastic. I just thought it needed to be said how poorly our board plans for squad depth, why was obvious to all of course. Our criticisms were the same in reality and I'm sure mirror most of the board's opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Enough is enough. For gods sake go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Enough is enough. For gods sake go. For God's go! I demand someone else buy this club and spend!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wish we could get rid of the lot and start again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wish we could get rid of the lot and start again. I feel the same way about N-O posters at the minute tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wish we could get rid of the lot and start again. I feel the same way about N-O posters at the minute tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just wish we could get rid of the lot and start again. I feel the same way about N-O posters at the minute tbh. Mine would solve both problems! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 It's round about this point that I'm expecting an announcement about the stadium being Wongaworld next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Wongaland's better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Wongadome for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 wongadome aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hard to see an end to Ashley's spell at the club - would take very big bucks to get rid of him and I can't see any likely source of that. The Qataris are our best hope but they will just wait until things are REALLY in a mess - like heading for relegation - so they can screw Ashley for the best deal....in fact, we could be in the Championship before there is a change of owner. This reminds me of when Villa had Doug Ellis and their fans were desperate to get rid of him but it took years...at least they got Lerner, we got rid of Shepherd and got Ashley... The only decent thing he has done is to take on the club's debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 tbf, Lerner has hardly be terts amerzbahls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hard to see an end to Ashley's spell at the club - would take very big bucks to get rid of him and I can't see any likely source of that. The Qataris are our best hope but they will just wait until things are REALLY in a mess - like heading for relegation - so they can screw Ashley for the best deal....in fact, we could be in the Championship before there is a change of owner. This reminds me of when Villa had Doug Ellis and their fans were desperate to get rid of him but it took years...at least they got Lerner, we got rid of Shepherd and got Ashley... The only decent thing he has done is to take on the club's debt. Would you really want the club to be a foreign owners play-thing? Have them come in and spunk loads of money on random players leaving the club soulless and without any real tradition or respect like Man City or Chelsea? I'd rather keep grinding and earn any glory than have it drop into our lap like a lottery win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 New owners have generally been shit across the board with the exceptions being when they have enough money to offset the fact that they know nothing about football - Chelsea and Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hard to see an end to Ashley's spell at the club - would take very big bucks to get rid of him and I can't see any likely source of that. The Qataris are our best hope but they will just wait until things are REALLY in a mess - like heading for relegation - so they can screw Ashley for the best deal....in fact, we could be in the Championship before there is a change of owner. This reminds me of when Villa had Doug Ellis and their fans were desperate to get rid of him but it took years...at least they got Lerner, we got rid of Shepherd and got Ashley... The only decent thing he has done is to take on the club's debt. Would you really want the club to be a foreign owners play-thing? Have them come in and spunk loads of money on random players leaving the club soulless and without any real tradition or respect like Man City or Chelsea? I'd rather keep grinding and earn any glory than have it drop into our lap like a lottery win. Would you really like to be taken for a fool every year by empty promises of new players to improve the side and then end up by selling more players than you sign and getting booted out of the FA Cup 2 years running by a seaside town team ? If you would, good luck to you - I prefer a successful side with quality players and actually winning a few trophies for a change. Maybe you don't want all those distractions of having to go to Semi-finals and finals...far better to sit at home and watch other teams doing it on TV ...? Yes I WOULD rather we got taken over and did a Man City...is that clear enough ? Incidentally - has anyone told you what the odds are on winning the lottery,...!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 New owners have generally been s*** across the board with the exceptions being when they have enough money to offset the fact that they know nothing about football - Chelsea and Man City. Are you saying they are not partly to blame for the current situation ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 He definitely got it right... http://media.tumblr.com/2e149d09a388e6e132d3caf8aa2bfe1a/tumblr_inline_mf7xx3GEDI1ry4qim.gif Never seen that Keegan interview before, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Keggie, Yup, seems the dont want to listen to anyone in football but prefer to make their own mistakes despite the best advice they've had. In 20 years time they'll know how to run the club :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. You old perv you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 We should sack LLambias and go and get the CEO from Mansfield Town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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