Tiresias Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I want the club build on solid foundations. Not renaming hte fucking ground, covering it in tacky advertising, repeatedly sending us backwards with proclemations from high. Also he fucking hired Joe Kinnear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Been a while since the spending money = Portsmouth argument has been raised. Leeds will be gutted they've lost their perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 We almost got relegated for the second time in a few years not long ago. That's what you need to remember when thinking about how brilliant our finances are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It beggars belief how predjudiced nufc fans are against southerners. Mike Ashley is slowly building a solid financial foundation that WILL eventually provide the club with the financial clout to eventually compete with the big clubs. If fans want immediate success then go and support the likes of man city. What is the point of spending money the club cannot hope to generate only to end up like Portsmouth. Short term gain always results on long term pain. I have supported this club for all of my sentient years and if I can wait a little longer for success on the field I can't see why other junior supporters can't be expected to put in the time like us older fans. I'm a southerner and this is a huge crock of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It beggars belief how predjudiced nufc fans are against southerners. Mike Ashley is slowly building a solid financial foundation that WILL eventually provide the club with the financial clout to eventually compete with the big clubs. If fans want immediate success then go and support the likes of man city. What is the point of spending money the club cannot hope to generate only to end up like Portsmouth. Short term gain always results on long term pain. I have supported this club for all of my sentient years and if I can wait a little longer for success on the field I can't see why other junior supporters can't be expected to put in the time like us older fans. I'm a southerner and this is a huge crock of shit. I choose to live in the South for work and it's definitely a load of fucking bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 What is this "Leeds" you speak of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 What is this "Leeds" you speak of? The old Portsmouth aka the new Maidstone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find it astonishing that some Newcastle fans are happy with/fully back Ashley with the disgusting decisions being made at the club. Football isn't just about financial decisions either. I wonder how solid those "financial foundations" will be if Ashley's decision making costs us our place in the Premier League for a second time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find it astonishing that some Newcastle fans are happy with/fully back Ashley with the disgusting decisions being made at the club. Football isn't just about financial decisions either. I wonder how solid those "financial foundations" will be if Ashley's decision making costs us our place in the Premier League for a second time? It is for some because it's been drilled in to us how great being a balance sheet club is and how we'll go bust (like all those others have...) if we're not. It's made fans apathetic as fuck, it's sad and it's prevalent in more clubs than ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's not just the reluctance to spend money that's holding us back ffs. It's consistently shite appointments, both in a football and non-footballing capacity. Bringing Keegan back was a fluke. It worked for a short time but it was to appease the fans. No-one will ever convince me that MA knew of Keegan's positive forward-thinking and that's why he did it. Hughton was also a fluke. He couldn't be arsed to seek out or pay for a well-known manager. Luckily he had a good coach on his books, being paid a pittance, looking to step-up. He's had two people running the club on his behalf, neither of whom had ever been involved in football before. I refuse to believe anyone else that would come in to buy the club would have such an appalling grasp on how a football club should be ran effectively like Mike Ashley does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find it astonishing that some Newcastle fans are happy with/fully back Ashley with the disgusting decisions being made at the club. Football isn't just about financial decisions either. I wonder how solid those "financial foundations" will be if Ashley's decision making costs us our place in the Premier League for a second time? It is for some because it's been drilled in to us how great being a balance sheet club is and how we'll go bust (like all those others have...) if we're not. Which is why a fair few will just nod along when we dawdle our way through a transfer window and leave ourselves short because we weren't able to get the player(s) in at significantly below market value / we'll never ever go into a net spend of above zero with Ashley in charge. Happy mediums, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I find it astonishing that some Newcastle fans are happy with/fully back Ashley with the disgusting decisions being made at the club. Football isn't just about financial decisions either. I wonder how solid those "financial foundations" will be if Ashley's decision making costs us our place in the Premier League for a second time? It is for some because it's been drilled in to us how great being a balance sheet club is and how we'll go bust (like all those others have...) if we're not. Which is why a fair few will just nod along when we dawdle our way through a transfer window and leave ourselves short because we weren't able to get the player(s) in at significantly below market value / we'll never ever go into a net spend of above zero with Ashley in charge. Happy mediums, please. I don't even want us spend big, I just want sensible investment rather than the wait 'til January incase we need a boost/saving tactic. Would be a nice if we bought a player on merit and how he'd fit in to the (non-existant) plan rather than because he has a clause or cost less than a few months previously as seems to be the only consistent in our dealings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Talk about the so called brilliant finances to the cows come home if you wish but are they really that brilliant? We rely heavily on TV money, our commercial income is f*cking awful and at the end of the day like it or not before Ashley we had much larger income. Just an example of this.... 7 years ago we were getting 30m per year more than Spurs now they get 50m more than us with a smaller stadium and less f*cking gate receipts. Fantastic finances my arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are NO offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Yay, another season of the club being on and off the market, with speculative bids from Nigerians, Iranians, Kuwaitis and Arabs. We're going to be so well prepared for the new season. I can hardly contain my glee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are NO offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Does he mean there are no offers or that there are offers from Newcastle Online? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 How much are we buying all that branded tat in for compared to the revenue generated from sales is what I'd like to know. Some of the shite they peddle really must not sell. How the fuck that's "good business" I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are N-O offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Christ, we've made an offer?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are NO offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Does he mean there are no offers or that there are offers from Newcastle Online? I've put in my very own Mike Ashley inspired offer. My powder is very wet though so I'm not sure if it'll fly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are N-O offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Christ, we've made an offer?? Mike can be Director of Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It's not just the reluctance to spend money that's holding us back ffs. It's consistently s**** appointments, both in a football and non-footballing capacity. Bringing Keegan back was a fluke. It worked for a short time but it was to appease the fans. No-one will ever convince me that MA knew of Keegan's positive forward-thinking and that's why he did it. Hughton was also a fluke. He couldn't be arsed to seek out or pay for a well-known manager. Luckily he had a good coach on his books, being paid a pittance, looking to step-up. He's had two people running the club on his behalf, neither of whom had ever been involved in football before. I refuse to believe anyone else that would come in to buy the club would have such an appalling grasp on how a football club should be ran effectively like Mike Ashley does. Oddly enough I thought just the opposite about Ashley bringing KK back. To me it showed that head no idea what he was doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are N-O offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Christ, we've made an offer?? Mike can be Director of Football. Who get the Managers job out of us lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are N-O offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Christ, we've made an offer?? Mike can be Director of Football. Who get the Managers job out of us lot? Baba, press conferences would be priceless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Lee Ryder @lee_ryder 23m Mike Ashley is a businessman and would always be prepared to listen to offers. Small problem is there are N-O offers. #nufc He has some great connections like. Christ, we've made an offer?? Mike can be Director of Football. Who get the Managers job out of us lot? Baba, press conferences would be priceless. Yes Dave for MD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 It beggars belief how predjudiced nufc fans are against southerners. Mike Ashley is slowly building a solid financial foundation that WILL eventually provide the club with the financial clout to eventually compete with the big clubs. If fans want immediate success then go and support the likes of man city. What is the point of spending money the club cannot hope to generate only to end up like Portsmouth. Short term gain always results on long term pain. I have supported this club for all of my sentient years and if I can wait a little longer for success on the field I can't see why other junior supporters can't be expected to put in the time like us older fans. I've no real problem with the amount we spend on transfers or our transfer policy, I think we've been bringing in talented players for good fee's, and i've only really lost patience with Ashley this season. But hiring people that belong in another era(and weren't even particularly successful back then) can only lose us money. If we get relegated again, which is a real possibility at the moment, then what happens to the "solid financial foundation"? If Ashley recognized the way the game is played these days and the importance of coaching then I'd be fine, but as it is we have an old fashioned coach working under a relic, neither are really qualified to be here and i've no idea why either was hired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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