Guest neesy111 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Is giraffe an insult now? edit: genuine question Yes. Are you having a giraffe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds are just because we are a division higher Leeds have had considerable more success than we have in the last 50-60 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 BBC Sport @BBCSport 1m Charles Green has agreed to stand down as a consultant at Rangers and sell his shareholding in the club, reports BBC Scotland Will this pave the way for Ashley to buy Rangers outright? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Don't know about outright due to the rules surrounding dual-ownership but I wouldn't be surprised if he buys another sizeable stake, if possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 BBC Sport @BBCSport 1m Charles Green has agreed to stand down as a consultant at Rangers and sell his shareholding in the club, reports BBC Scotland Will this pave the way for Ashley to buy Rangers outright? No and Green being there wouldn't have stopped him if he wanted to buy Rangers anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. first up Leeds don't have support potential easily would get their ground filled if they got up. The rest, Wolves not so much as the others but still had enough going in that the club wanted to expand the stadium (then got relegated so stopped) these clubs may not have as much of a fanbase at present but the price would be less than £50m compared to over £200m, and as for infastructure other than the stadium what infastructure do we have? Our youth systems a piece of shit our scouting department is one guy and is our training ground that good really? Leeds have quite a large stadium already and I dare say probably have a better youth system than us. I'm also not pulling this out of thin air, recent trends have had less prem clubs being bought (otherwise how are everton still for sale, now theres a much better buy than us) and more championship clubs, Cardiff, Leicester, Forest, Leeds (to a bank who want to sell them on again apparently) Hull and Watford have all been bought in the last few years, why weren't any of these guys interested in us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 In my opinion he is planning to sell again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Well if he is is going to sell the club it must be approaching that time then, as no buyer in their right mind would buy this club if he has taken the next TV deal money out of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 IF (deliberately in caps) he was looking to sell in the foreseeable future then it will happen this week (and with very little warning( Give new owners one week to buy one statement of intent player. Imo, any Cabaye sale immediately rules out a sale now, no perspective buyer would be happy with the decision to sell one of our main players as they are coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Or this is the last season for ashley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Or this is the last season for ashley or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 IF (deliberately in caps) he was looking to sell in the foreseeable future then it will happen this week (and with very little warning( Give new owners one week to buy one statement of intent player. Imo, any Cabaye sale immediately rules out a sale now, no perspective buyer would be happy with the decision to sell one of our main players as they are coming in. No one will buy at the price he'd ask now anyway. I think he's looking for a way out, but it wont be for another year or two until he's paid the debt down. I wouldn't be surprised if he's ring fenced the extra cash we'll receive in prize money this year and it will be used to take a huge chunk out of the loans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's cornered himself again. After regaining some level of trust during 2011/12, he's back to not giving a fuck. The appointment of Kinnear just confirms how little he cares. It's about having people who are just glad to have a job running this for him until he gets it sold. There would be no reason for him to appoint ambitious managers or buy expensive players, they'd just force him to spend more money. Pardew and Kinnear are both incredibly lucky to be in their respective jobs, they won't ask anything of him. The longer this drags on, the more pain and humiliation will be coming our way. We need this sale to happen quickly. Still feel it's drawing to a close, surely this isn't pleasant for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds are just because we are a division higher Leeds have had considerable more success than we have in the last 50-60 years The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds are just because we are a division higher Leeds have had considerable more success than we have in the last 50-60 years We're a bigger club than Leeds whichever way you choose to guage it whether it be historically, fanbase or trophy count. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's cornered himself again. After regaining some level of trust during 2011/12, he's back to not giving a fuck. The appointment of Kinnear just confirms how little he cares. It's about having people who are just glad to have a job running this for him until he gets it sold. There would be no reason for him to appoint ambitious managers or buy expensive players, they'd just force him to spend more money. Pardew and Kinnear are both incredibly lucky to be in their respective jobs, they won't ask anything of him. The longer this drags on, the more pain and humiliation will be coming our way. We need this sale to happen quickly. Still feel it's drawing to a close, surely this isn't pleasant for him. when has he displayed half a fuck what anyone thinks of him? Would that be at the sacking of a popular manager or the renaming of the ground? He will only go once he has his price and not a moment sooner regardless of how long it is before someone displays even interest in buying the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Kinnear's here to rustle Pardew's jimmies. To get him out without having to pay off his 8 year deal and take over on a short term contract for the next 18 months before he can fuck us off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's cornered himself again. After regaining some level of trust during 2011/12, he's back to not giving a f***. The appointment of Kinnear just confirms how little he cares. It's about having people who are just glad to have a job running this for him until he gets it sold. There would be no reason for him to appoint ambitious managers or buy expensive players, they'd just force him to spend more money. Pardew and Kinnear are both incredibly lucky to be in their respective jobs, they won't ask anything of him. The longer this drags on, the more pain and humiliation will be coming our way. We need this sale to happen quickly. Still feel it's drawing to a close, surely this isn't pleasant for him. when has he displayed half a f*** what anyone thinks of him? Would that be at the sacking of a popular manager or the renaming of the ground? He will only go once he has his price and not a moment sooner regardless of how long it is before someone displays even interest in buying the club My point isn't that he'd care. I just don't think he likes owning our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's cornered himself again. After regaining some level of trust during 2011/12, he's back to not giving a f***. The appointment of Kinnear just confirms how little he cares. It's about having people who are just glad to have a job running this for him until he gets it sold. There would be no reason for him to appoint ambitious managers or buy expensive players, they'd just force him to spend more money. Pardew and Kinnear are both incredibly lucky to be in their respective jobs, they won't ask anything of him. The longer this drags on, the more pain and humiliation will be coming our way. We need this sale to happen quickly. Still feel it's drawing to a close, surely this isn't pleasant for him. when has he displayed half a f*** what anyone thinks of him? Would that be at the sacking of a popular manager or the renaming of the ground? He will only go once he has his price and not a moment sooner regardless of how long it is before someone displays even interest in buying the club My point isn't that he'd care. I just don't think he likes owning our club. no probably not but its not going to get rid of him any faster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's cornered himself again. After regaining some level of trust during 2011/12, he's back to not giving a f***. The appointment of Kinnear just confirms how little he cares. It's about having people who are just glad to have a job running this for him until he gets it sold. There would be no reason for him to appoint ambitious managers or buy expensive players, they'd just force him to spend more money. Pardew and Kinnear are both incredibly lucky to be in their respective jobs, they won't ask anything of him. The longer this drags on, the more pain and humiliation will be coming our way. We need this sale to happen quickly. Still feel it's drawing to a close, surely this isn't pleasant for him. when has he displayed half a f*** what anyone thinks of him? Would that be at the sacking of a popular manager or the renaming of the ground? He will only go once he has his price and not a moment sooner regardless of how long it is before someone displays even interest in buying the club My point isn't that he'd care. I just don't think he likes owning our club. no probably not but its not going to get rid of him any faster Hopefully the threat of relegation might. He would get jack shit if we went down again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Just the thought about Ashley leaving makes my belly tingle. What a good day that will be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The "Cockney b******" song came out again tonight. Best the utter weaklings can do either side of singing about Shola and Pardew. Cretins. Ron, man. Really think this fan rage is somewhat misplaced. I was looking at the screen tonight thinking "daft c***s" at those that paid money to go and watch that in the flesh, then I took a look in the mirror at someone who was sitting at home like a mug doing exactly the same. Only difference is Sky got my money instead of NUFC, which is just as bad if not worse. I don't think it is at all. The fans are refusing to fight for the club in supporting this nonsense. I can see where you're coming from but I think it's pity more than anger that I feel towards them. However, I've been where they are so I can appreciate why they still turn up. There are times when it's all you have, and for some people it's all they'll ever have, they live for it. I can't be mad with people for supporting the team, which is what most of them are doing at the end of the day. Fair point. I just wish people would see the big picture. Surely virtually nobody enjoys the rubbish we serve up at SJP and on the road these days. but what is the big picture? everyone stay's away? won't change anything not with the tv deal it would just mean further cost cuts and bring us no closer to anyone actually buying the club which is the big issue, no one wants to. Disagree - if Ashley is put into a position where he runs the risk of having to put money into the club because attendances were poor and nobody was buying merchandise, he would be out like a shot. In any case, his lack of investment in players will eventually lead to relegation and that will kill off his Sky golden goose. Last night's result is the first step along the way to possibly being relegated. Also don't agree that nobody wants to buy the club - they do, but they know what Ashley is like and they will wait until he is in a position where he cannot mess them about or hold them to ransom...Ashley isn't the only billionaire who thinks he is street-wise....as with everything else, there is always someone smarter/richer and they will come along eventually but it may take a while. Disagree, he'll hold out until the bitter end until he gets the price he wants. And frankly if you were rich why buy an expensive club like newcastle when you can buy a biggish championship club (eg Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday or go to League one Sheffield United or Wolves) for far far less put in some small amount of investment (compared to prem) get them up and boom prem tv package. Are you serious ? Leeds ? Sheff Utd? Wolves ? Since when did ANY of these clubs have the support potential - and actual - around the world that NUFC has ? Lets hope potential buyers know more about club potential than you seem to - don't argue by the way, because you'll start to look silly with that theory. We also have the infrastructure in place. Those clubs might be a lot cheaper to buy but then a lot of money would have to be spent on other things. what makes people think that we are a bigger club than Leeds are just because we are a division higher Leeds have had considerable more success than we have in the last 50-60 years I'm guessing you're referring to them winning more trophies? If so, that's not saying much. Oxford, Boro, Luton, Wigan have won stuff since the last time we did. That doesn't make them big. The potential at NUFC is massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd sell to anyone to get this poisonous rat away from the running of this club; Al-Queida, anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Just the thought about Ashley leaving makes my belly tingle. What a good day that will be... Said similar to my dad last night. He's convinced we'll end up with Ashley/Venky's Mk. II though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd sell to anyone to get this poisonous rat away from the running of this club; Al-Queida, anyone. I'd agree with you if bin Laden was still alive. But their management sucks to shit these days. They only have the brand now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'd sell to anyone to get this poisonous rat away from the running of this club; Al-Queida, anyone. At least we could expect an occasional trip to the twin towers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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