Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I can see 25K attendances next season if Rafa doesn't stay on as the die hards are gone, a lot of the old timers too and as said a big number of the day trippers will fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 One thing is, that we might see the day-trippers tail off next season, with no PL football to entice them. I remember our first home game back in the Championship, in 2009 pulling in 36000 (a 3-0 home win v Reading - Shola treble) It was televised, that's why. It was back up to 45K plus soon after. Our gutless support will turn up whenever/whatever, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
levelsevenlee Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The inaction of match going fans is a huge part of the problem. The man shouldn't be able to step foot inside SJP for what he has done to this club, but he not only gets to take his seat, people buy his tat wonga tops and sit and appluad the shitfest that masquerades as a team on the pitch. I don't blame the bairns who go or even the older lot, its the inbetweens who willingly spend their hard earned on absolute tat. Ashley has ripped the soul out of the club, but the fans have paid him to do so. Spurs at home last season should have been 5-10K not 20-30K. I think a lot of genuine supporters have packed in over the last 2/3/4 years. What you have left are the die-hards, those who see the match as a social experience/badge or honour, those who go merely out of habit.. The danger is here, is that Mike Ashley has damaged Newcastle's future. You tell me why any kid would want to support NUFC at the moment, when they are a laughing joke nationally, and the club treats it's own supporters with complete contempt? My son, who's 8, has just discovered football. Has been a few times this year, and is wanting to get season tickets next year. I have to say, I'm a bit torn by it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 The inaction of match going fans is a huge part of the problem. The man shouldn't be able to step foot inside SJP for what he has done to this club, but he not only gets to take his seat, people buy his tat wonga tops and sit and appluad the shitfest that masquerades as a team on the pitch. I don't blame the bairns who go or even the older lot, its the inbetweens who willingly spend their hard earned on absolute tat. Ashley has ripped the soul out of the club, but the fans have paid him to do so. Spurs at home last season should have been 5-10K not 20-30K. I think a lot of genuine supporters have packed in over the last 2/3/4 years. What you have left are the die-hards, those who see the match as a social experience/badge or honour, those who go merely out of habit.. The danger is here, is that Mike Ashley has damaged Newcastle's future. You tell me why any kid would want to support NUFC at the moment, when they are a laughing joke nationally, and the club treats it's own supporters with complete contempt? My son, who's 8, has just discovered football. Has been a few times this year, and is wanting to get season tickets next year. I have to say, I'm a bit torn by it all. Snap. Really don't want to but fully aware that if I don't do something to get him bang into it he'll either give up on Newcastle and follow someone else or give up on football. It would go against everything I feel but I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 My little girl has asked a couple of times too and I'd love nothing more than to be able to take her along, as my dad did with me, when I was a kid. The worry is though, that they will sharp lose interest anyway, if they see players who don't care and getting battered most weeks. Kids need to see hope and ambition too, to be able to buy into the magic. It's being lost, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I long to take my boys, but not to this version of NUFC. The oldest his first game was Gateshead and he loved it. My mate his son has an ST, he's 14 and while he loves the Toon he also enjoys seeing the top players turning up at SJP like Aguero for example who is his fave player. I remember when I was a teenager, although I idolised Cole, I also loved QPRs Sir Les, Blackburn's Shearer and Saints' Le Tissier. It was all about the football as a bairn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 They would fall in love just the same I imagine. I can't remember who we were playing when I went, how good we were or what was going on off the pitch. I just came up those stairs into the floodlights at SJP and I was absolutely blown away. Of course I was lucky to grow up in the Keegan era after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I long to take my boys, but not to this version of NUFC. The oldest his first game was Gateshead and he loved it. My mate his son has an ST, he's 14 and while he loves the Toon he also enjoys seeing the top players turning up at SJP like Aguero for example who is his fave player. I remember when I was a teenager, although I idolised Cole, I also loved QPRs Sir Les, Blackburn's Shearer and Saints' Le Tissier. It was all about the football as a bairn. It still is for him and it's getting harder and harder to keep on saying 'no, we're not going out of protest'. He just wants to watch Newcastle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 One thing is, that we might see the day-trippers tail off next season, with no PL football to entice them. I remember our first home game back in the Championship, in 2009 pulling in 36000 (a 3-0 home win v Reading - Shola treble) It was televised, that's why. It was back up to 45K plus soon after. Our gutless support will turn up whenever/whatever, man. Must take some guts to boycott from Manchester or wherever like. Lionheart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I can see 25K attendances next season if Rafa doesn't stay on as the die hards are gone, a lot of the old timers too and as said a big number of the day trippers will f*** off. This is what I was getting at in a previous post. We need to have the fans all pulling in the same direction and really get at the throat of Ashley and his set up until he gets the message and sells up. For as much stick as they get from some quarters I think Liverpool fans are a brilliant example of what can be achieved if you keep plugging away. Back when we were protesting against the likes of Shepherd and Souness it was basically for one, two matches tops and then that was it. It needs to be relentless until something is achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I'd had a season ticket in the Gallowgate for years and last year my son who had only getting into football a year earlier asked if he could get a ticket, so I got a couple in the level seven family section and he loves it. He hates in when we lose and we have great conversations on the journey home. I asked him if he still wants to go next season and he said "of course". I need Newcastle United in my life, not to line Ashley's pocket, or to support the amateurish regime, or to happy clap players that couldn't lace Shearers boots, or to buy a Wonga shirt. I need it for me and now for my son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
levelsevenlee Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I long to take my boys, but not to this version of NUFC. The oldest his first game was Gateshead and he loved it. My mate his son has an ST, he's 14 and while he loves the Toon he also enjoys seeing the top players turning up at SJP like Aguero for example who is his fave player. I remember when I was a teenager, although I idolised Cole, I also loved QPRs Sir Les, Blackburn's Shearer and Saints' Le Tissier. It was all about the football as a bairn. It still is for him and it's getting harder and harder to keep on saying 'no, we're not going out of protest'. He just wants to watch Newcastle... I've been bang up for taking him under the Rafalution, while everyone was up for it and pulling together. I even said, while Schteve was in charge, that we'd get season tickets when we were relegated. Felt like the pressure would be off, might see some decent games. However, now we've seen a good manager in the hot seat - I'm just not sure I'm up for the inevitable disappointment of him going and being replaced by Nigel Pearson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I can see 25K attendances next season if Rafa doesn't stay on as the die hards are gone, a lot of the old timers too and as said a big number of the day trippers will f*** off. This is what I was getting at in a previous post. We need to have the fans all pulling in the same direction and really get at the throat of Ashley and his set up until he gets the message and sells up. For as much stick as they get from some quarters I think Liverpool fans are a brilliant example of what can be achieved if you keep plugging away. Back when we were protesting against the likes of Shepherd and Souness it was basically for one, two matches tops and then that was it. It needs to be relentless until something is achieved. I think Liverpool fans have unfortunately had their success at this kind of thing galvanised by tragedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 One thing is, that we might see the day-trippers tail off next season, with no PL football to entice them. I remember our first home game back in the Championship, in 2009 pulling in 36000 (a 3-0 home win v Reading - Shola treble) It was televised, that's why. It was back up to 45K plus soon after. Our gutless support will turn up whenever/whatever, man. Especially if we are around the top of the league which we most probably will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 8, 2016 Share Posted May 8, 2016 One thing is, that we might see the day-trippers tail off next season, with no PL football to entice them. I remember our first home game back in the Championship, in 2009 pulling in 36000 (a 3-0 home win v Reading - Shola treble) It was televised, that's why. It was back up to 45K plus soon after. Our gutless support will turn up whenever/whatever, man. Must take some guts to boycott from Manchester or wherever like. Lionheart. Shut it, Wongaloid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 One thing is, that we might see the day-trippers tail off next season, with no PL football to entice them. I remember our first home game back in the Championship, in 2009 pulling in 36000 (a 3-0 home win v Reading - Shola treble) It was televised, that's why. It was back up to 45K plus soon after. Our gutless support will turn up whenever/whatever, man. Must take some guts to boycott from Manchester or wherever like. Lionheart. I'm home at least 15 weekends a year. Be the easiest thing in the world for me to keep going to the games. I don't expect any credit for not going. I just expect other people to do the same because it's very blatantly the best thing for our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It's not our club and never has been we are simply a by-product in the great scheme of things who supplies additional funding to his pockets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Not going has to be coupled with some form of protest as well. Says the bloke cowering from wildfires in Canada. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well Mike Ashley said last season that if we got relegated he'd do whatever it takes to get us promoted (he'd be insane not to given the money on offer). Who knows, maybe Rafa will stay, be given full control and he'll rebuild the club. Winning every game in the Championship under Rafa would be a good thing to take your kids to. Positivity and expecting to see wins would be a nice change. Over to you Fat Mike. You know it makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Mike Ashley is a malignant tumor that has ravaged the club. In his nine years here he's proven himself to be nothing more than an absentee landlord, at the best of times, and a pimp, whoring out the club for the benefit of his own interests, at the worst. I'll have no expectation for anything good to come to us so long as he's involved with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Who here actually goes to the match? if its a yes you have no right to moan about him as you knew exactly what you where paying for when you bought the ticket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Mike Ashley is a malignant tumor that has ravaged the club. In his nine years here he's proven himself to be nothing more than an absentee landlord, at the best of times, and a pimp, whoring out the club for the benefit of his own interests, at the worst. I'll have no expectation for anything good to come to us so long as he's involved with the club. Say. No. More. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I just hope he puts the same faith in Rafa this year as he put in Charnley last year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 "Penny wise, Pound foolish" fits Ashley's ownership of NUFC. The fees wasted on the likes of Thauvin, Cabella, etc. would have easily paid for a top manager's wages, the redevelopment of the training ground, refurbishing SJP, employing quality coaches at all levels and an experienced, competent executive board. The most frustrating thing is he could have made a little profit every year while having a decent set up designed to compete. His penny pinching and short sightedness has ended up costing him millions and made him very unpopular. Hopefully he'll persuade Rafa to stay, give him what he needs and leave him to it. As for what relegation will cost him, stick it on the tab Mike. It's your fault for employing incompetent people and you owe the money to yourself anyway. What's another £50m or so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I'm all for sticking it on the tab, I'm just a bit confused how he's been here for years and according to the pundit's he's spent millions and yet our tab that we owe him is exactly the same as when he first walked through the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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