Ronaldo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Neymar plays in the Championship now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Neymar plays in the Championship now? I'm fairly sure you know what I meant but I edited it for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'm still struggling to believe it, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 I'm still struggling to believe it, like. Me too, sounds outrageous. Googled it and apparently it's the base wage that's higher (by 3k): "It comes after the Telegraph reported that Shelvey will continue to be paid his whopping £80,000 a week salary to play in the Championship next season, should Newcastle be relegated. That's because there was no agreement in place for the former Swansea City midfielder to have his wages cut should the club drop into the second tier. Samba star Neymar - reported to be on a basic salary of £77,000 - has netted 27 times this season and the 24-year-old came third in the Ballon d’Or awards – with Cristiano Ronaldo and winner Lionel Messi ahead of him. Newcastle, under Mike Ashley's ownership, have not inserted relegation clauses into the contracts of all players." Find it hard to care until Fat Mike has gone but that is nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Former #NUFC chairman Freddy Shepherd tells @talkSPORT that he's sure he can put a consortium together if Ashley decides to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Former #NUFC chairman Freddy Shepherd tells @talkSPORT that he's sure he can put a consortium together if Ashley decides to sell. We are destined to be owned by people with a BMI higher than their IQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Without sounding absolutely thick... what would stop the fans trying to organise a consortium? Obviously a daft amount of money is needed, but could it be possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Without sounding absolutely thick... what would stop the fans trying to organise a consortium? Obviously a daft amount of money is needed, but could it be possible? Sting, Ant and Dec, Brian Johnson and the whole NUFC fan base couldn't come up with enough money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 The club isn't worth anything like what Ashley has invested to date, but it might be if we went straight back up and stabilised. For that reason, I can't see him selling. If the club becomes marooned in the Championship, then it's worth bugger all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Former #NUFC chairman Freddy Shepherd tells @talkSPORT that he's sure he can put a consortium together if Ashley decides to sell. We are destined to be owned by people with a BMI higher than their IQ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/05/killing-football-club-not-easy-mike-ashley-performed-perfection-newcastle-united/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Had a feeling that this specific thread would be top of the lost this morning. Fans are not happy when the club doesnt spend, the fans are not happy when the club Does spend. bla bla fucking blah. Gets kind of boring after a while... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Had a feeling that this specific thread would be top of the lost this morning. Fans are not happy when the club doesnt spend, the fans are not happy when the club Does spend. bla bla fucking blah. Gets kind of boring after a while... Eh? This is nothing to do with spend. It's do with having fucking muppets put in charge at all levels. The only person in a management position that comes out of this season with any credibility is Rafa. And he was only here for 10 fucking games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 The club would be worthless if it had no customers... He would have to sell it at a huge loss or give it away if the club was playing to an empty stadium every other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Had a feeling that this specific thread would be top of the lost this morning. Fans are not happy when the club doesnt spend, the fans are not happy when the club Does spend. bla bla fucking blah. Gets kind of boring after a while... Theirs more to it than that. First of all is employing a man to run the club who has no idea what he's doing, he's an accountant, thats all. As a consequence when he makes decisions (which he only makes when he's forced too) and they turn out to be the wrong decision he'll just carry on instead of righting his wrong. This is a man who employed McClaren when far more qualified managers for the job declared their interest. He then kept employing him until it was too late, even in February the club didn't really acknowledge the possibility of relegation. This isn't the first time someone like him has been given the position, before him we had Kinnear who brought in only 1 player who was on loan, but gave the impression that he could buy Messi from Barcelona for spare change down the back of the sofa. Before him we had Llambias who spent his time here selling the name of the ground and sacking a manager who brought us up from the Championship and beat Sunderland 5-1, before sacking him for the cunt just because he owed him some casino debts. Now lets go onto money, the past season is the only time Newcastle have paid more than they brought in, even then 5 years or so of TV payments dictates that we are spending only a fraction of the money that we have accumulated, but the impression by the club is that we have no money and dent to Ashley has risen. Do you know why we have debt to Ashley? It's because when he bought the club he had to buy land around it as well. Now nearly 10 years on he is developing this land, previous plans where he would sell the land off included provisions for both the extension of the Gallowgate end, and the extension of the Metro tunnel to the west end. Ashley's plans now mean that neither will be possible once development has been undertook. For the record, despite only acquiring the land as part of deal he forgot to include when buying Newcastle and laying the price of it down to Newcastle as debt owed to him, Ashley has actually denied that the land belongs to the club and has shifted ownership of it to a different company. I could go on and on, and on, but I don't think I need too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 We are the football club formerly known as Newcastle United ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 We should have a £ sign instead of a name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Without sounding absolutely thick... what would stop the fans trying to organise a consortium? Obviously a daft amount of money is needed, but could it be possible? Sting, Ant and Dec, Brian Johnson and the whole NUFC fan base couldn't come up with enough money. The forum raised a couple of grand in a few days to pay for a server man Do we not think that the fans trying to organise a consortium would possibly bring in additional interest from wealthy folk? Some Thai chap sat at home wondering what he could spend his £40m on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Good lord, people still can't see the problems at the club. You have to be a bit special if you can't work things out in you're own head. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Without sounding absolutely thick... what would stop the fans trying to organise a consortium? Obviously a daft amount of money is needed, but could it be possible? Sting, Ant and Dec, Brian Johnson and the whole NUFC fan base couldn't come up with enough money. The forum raised a couple of grand in a few days to pay for a server man Do we not think that the fans trying to organise a consortium would possibly bring in additional interest from wealthy folk? Some Thai chap sat at home wondering what he could spend his £40m on. Except Mike Ashley would probably want more than £300m (including the £127m loan to himself). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Without sounding absolutely thick... what would stop the fans trying to organise a consortium? Obviously a daft amount of money is needed, but could it be possible? Sting, Ant and Dec, Brian Johnson and the whole NUFC fan base couldn't come up with enough money. The forum raised a couple of grand in a few days to pay for a server man Do we not think that the fans trying to organise a consortium would possibly bring in additional interest from wealthy folk? Some Thai chap sat at home wondering what he could spend his £40m on. Except Mike Ashley would probably want more than £300m (including the £127m loan to himself). Wonder how far Barclays will let me go into my overdraft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Had a feeling that this specific thread would be top of the lost this morning. Fans are not happy when the club doesnt spend, the fans are not happy when the club Does spend. bla bla fucking blah. Gets kind of boring after a while... This short term, black and white (heh) thinking is part of the problem; trying to apportion the blame to one party and simplifying things at board level to roles that a inextricably linked and have differing levels of influence. Everything is always on a one season basis without the foresight of the timing of the spending and the extent at to which it will continue in future seasons. If this happened in a school or a hospital, those in charge of the culture or spend would gone in a shot, but in football it's somehow different because the timings in which they are active are so fragmented. Just think ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/514869/Newcastle-Mike-Ashley-Premier-League-relegation-inquest-Sunderland-Lee-Charnley EXCLUSIVE: Newcastle are a basket case, Charney won’t resign and Ashley’s created a cancer By Ian Murtagh / Published 12th May 2016 Who’s to blame? Why does one of England’s biggest football institutions find itself facing Championship football for the second time in eight years? How can a club splash out £80m in nine months and win just eight games out of 37? The guilty men are many. Perhaps only Rafa Benitez, a handful of players and the Toon Army escape ridicule for the mess Newcastle find themselves in today. Let’s start with Lee Charnley, long-serving office boy, promoted to a position of power to which he is so clearly ill-equipped. The word is the managing director won’t resign because he believes he’s the best man for the job. Just like he felt Steve McClaren was the best man to manage Newcastle. Too arrogant to admit his mistake or paralysed into inaction, he scoffed at suggestions the club was in crisis. When he eventually acted, Charnley orchestrated one of the most bungled sackings in Premier League history, hanging the hapless McClaren out to dry while painstakingly conducting negotiations with representatives of his successor. McClaren’s execution was as public as his appointment had been private, smuggled into the ground last June for exclusive interviews with the club’s preferred media partners. He never looked a comfortable fit for the job and his optimistic musings became as laughable as they were misplaced. McClaren had little input into last summer’s recruitment drive and was soon telling pals the squad he took over was ill-balanced and lacking characters. At least the man got that one right. January’s transfer window was meant to correct so many wrongs but proved an exercise in vanity rather than surgery. Newcastle were Europe’s biggest spenders. McClaren was even allowed to bring in players he actually wanted in Andros Townsend and Jonjo Shelvey. But what the Magpies really needed was a reliable centre half, a proven goalscorer and a fit left-back. They got none of them. Charnley, McClaren, chief scout Graham Carr and players such as Fabricio Coloccini, Moussa Sissoko, Aleksandar Mitrovic and Shelvey must all shoulder some of the blame for this seasons’ disaster. But the buck stops with Ashley. The retail magnate has stayed out of footballing matters this season, passing the buck to Charnley but everything that is wrong with Newcastle lies at his door. He has created the cancer that has eaten away at a once-proud institution. Just look around the stadium. More than 150 advertising logos for Sports Direct, plastered here, there and everywhere in garish red and blue. Similar hoardings dominate the training ground. A trivial fact maybe but it says everything about the flawed ethos which has dragged Newcastle down. Newcastle does not feel like a football club but a convenient showcase for Ashley’s premier business. He didn’t get away with renaming St James’ Park but succeeded in stripping Newcastle of its soul. Players don’t identify with a club steeped in history and part of the fabric of the Tyneside community. They’re accessories to a brand far removed from the black and white tradition. Economic assets using Newcastle as a staging post for somewhere better. We all suspected as much. Yohan Cabaye confirmed it when he left for Paris St Germain, revealing he’d been told on signing for Newcastle that the club would not stand in his way, providing a suitable offer was tabled. Profit not prizes became the watchword under Ashley. The criteria for signing a player wasn’t “what can he give us,” more a case of “how much can we sell him on for.” How ironic Sunderland fans are today toasting 33-year-old Jermain Defoe, a player who arrived with little resale value. A balance sheet disaster in the eyes of Newcastle, a fully-fledged Mackem hero 14 miles down the road. If Benitez stays on, Toon fans will at least console themselves in the fact the Magpies have a quality manager in charge to mastermind a promotion bid. But he’d be staying on at a club with a flawed business model that is rotten to the core. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 About 4 or 5 years too late but good effort anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Yeah he's only had 4 years of stuff we've collectively written to plagiarise like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts