Stifler Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So with the Premier League income about to shoot up, he decides that now is a good time to sell, and buy a near bankrupt club in a league that attracts very little attention. Yeah, makes sense. Makes sense in that Rangers have almost 100% better chance of getting CL consistently that Newcasyle would. The money gained thru CL tv rights and the exposure for SD means it makes absolute sense The big bucks in the CL are in the later stages. Celtic and Rangers are unlikely to even clear the 1st group stage. Exposure-wise, nothing beats the PL in showcasing his brand to a worldwide audience. 38 PL matches vs the SPL plus 6 CL matches, the answer is obvious. Rangers have global support though. Their merchandising possibilities are beyond ours (unless we become more successful) and the operating costs would be smaller (players wages, fees). If he sold us at the same amount he put into us then bought Rangers, he would have earned more profit within 3-5 years with Rangers then he ever did with us. That said this comes from unfamiliar source and the article just looks at a hypothetical situation based on what other people have interoperated to possibly happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers need a lot of subsidy to compete as well don't they though? Like how they went bust last time. And also, selling us is going to be a very slow process, presumably if it was easy to find a buyer Mike would have snapped their hand off already. I don't see how their merchandising/advertising potential is bigger than ours. A couple of CL group games every season, which most people ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers went bust because of mismanagement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 It makes absolute sense to buy a team that's at its lowest stock ever, that is guaranteed to have a solid fan base forever, and inevitably going to be back in the top tier very soon. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 I guess it depends on the Champions League develops in the next few years. There is lots of talk about a European Super League which some experts really believe will be a reality sooner rather than later and whilst it might not seem likely Rangers would be part of that, they are more likely candidates than we are. I heard on the radio the other day when it was suggested Ashley might want to take over that there is some regulation in Scotland where he cannot own more than 10% of Rangers if he owns a Premier League club so he would definitely have to sell us if he plans to buy Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? Because they always get knocked out instantly? And they're one of the less interesting clubs involved. The PL is a global phenomenon all season long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Context, Mole. How many games do you think Celtic/Rangers will have? 8's prob the norm, 2 if they can't clear the qualifiers. Even in the wider sense and without the help of numbers, I doubt the average CL match will match the average PL match in global viewership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 4.7bn. Presumably that's all of the TV ratings added together, aye? So I could watch 50 games and be counted 50 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Champions league nights you can only advertIse whoever sponsor the champions league, he'd have to cover up all of his shit SD stuff which would give him less exposure than the Europa league would? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Well possibly, but the debate seems to be whether swapping us for Rangers makes any business sense. It seems to me that being a CL club in Scotland doesn't give you either a bigger revenue stream or bigger exposure, compared to a mid-table Premiership club. Otherwise there'd be queues of people wanting to take over Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Context, Mole. How many games do you think Celtic/Rangers will have? 8's prob the norm, 2 if they can't clear the qualifiers. Even in the wider sense and without the help of numbers, I doubt the average CL match will match the average PL match in global viewership. Aye i wasn't sure what you meant.... i was talking about the numbers on the whole not just one team.... for Celtic and Rangers obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Champions league nights you can only advertIse whoever sponsor the champions league, he'd have to cover up all of his s*** SD stuff which would give him less exposure than the Europa league would? Good point. Aye i wasn't sure what you meant.... i was talking about the numbers on the whole not just one team.... for Celtic and Rangers obviously not. My bad, should have made it clearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers We've lost over £1m a month for 5 out of the last 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers We've lost over £1m a month for 5 out of the last 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-profits-and-losses-under-mike-ashley-and-beforehand/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant OK, whatever, still seems a bit stupid to be laughing at a club that's losing just about the same as us. Anyway, I don't really care about Rangers at all, not sure why I bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 join the rest of us then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant OK, whatever, still seems a bit stupid to be laughing at a club that's losing just about the same as us. Anyway, I don't really care about Rangers at all, not sure why I bothered. They are in the second division of Scotland with part-timers. We are in the premiership with a bunch of billionaires throwing money everywhere, one can clearly support losing 1m a month, one cannot. It is a silly comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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