LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Context, Mole. How many games do you think Celtic/Rangers will have? 8's prob the norm, 2 if they can't clear the qualifiers. Even in the wider sense and without the help of numbers, I doubt the average CL match will match the average PL match in global viewership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 4.7bn. Presumably that's all of the TV ratings added together, aye? So I could watch 50 games and be counted 50 times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Champions league nights you can only advertIse whoever sponsor the champions league, he'd have to cover up all of his shit SD stuff which would give him less exposure than the Europa league would? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Rangers and Celtic have been competing in the Champions League for many years, and they still can't compete financially with clubs in the Premiership. That's why they're desperate to leave the Scottish League. What's going to change if Ashley takes over? More Sports Direct advertising? Well possibly, but the debate seems to be whether swapping us for Rangers makes any business sense. It seems to me that being a CL club in Scotland doesn't give you either a bigger revenue stream or bigger exposure, compared to a mid-table Premiership club. Otherwise there'd be queues of people wanting to take over Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 How is the Champions League less of a showcase to a worldwide audience than the Premiership? Am I missing something here? The Premier League is broadcast in 212 territories around the world, working with 80 different broadcasters. The TV audience for Premier League games is 4.7bn, and the number of homes reached last season increased 11 per cent to 643m. In total, the League clocked up 185,000 hours of TV coverage in 2010/11, an increase of 65 per cent on the previous campaign. Champs League, or any other league for that matter, won't hit those figures. Surely that's an imbalanced comparison though? seeing as there is 38 games a season compared to the 15 games of the CL. Context, Mole. How many games do you think Celtic/Rangers will have? 8's prob the norm, 2 if they can't clear the qualifiers. Even in the wider sense and without the help of numbers, I doubt the average CL match will match the average PL match in global viewership. Aye i wasn't sure what you meant.... i was talking about the numbers on the whole not just one team.... for Celtic and Rangers obviously not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Champions league nights you can only advertIse whoever sponsor the champions league, he'd have to cover up all of his s*** SD stuff which would give him less exposure than the Europa league would? Good point. Aye i wasn't sure what you meant.... i was talking about the numbers on the whole not just one team.... for Celtic and Rangers obviously not. My bad, should have made it clearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers We've lost over £1m a month for 5 out of the last 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 rangers are apparently losing 1m a month at the moment, fucking wankers We've lost over £1m a month for 5 out of the last 10 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-profits-and-losses-under-mike-ashley-and-beforehand/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant OK, whatever, still seems a bit stupid to be laughing at a club that's losing just about the same as us. Anyway, I don't really care about Rangers at all, not sure why I bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 join the rest of us then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 i suppose ian, the point might be that they went bankrupt and had all of their debts wiped clean by the newco and yet are still currently losing 1m a month but yeah our case is clearly relevant OK, whatever, still seems a bit stupid to be laughing at a club that's losing just about the same as us. Anyway, I don't really care about Rangers at all, not sure why I bothered. They are in the second division of Scotland with part-timers. We are in the premiership with a bunch of billionaires throwing money everywhere, one can clearly support losing 1m a month, one cannot. It is a silly comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/thru-black-white-eyes-follow-money-17nov13/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 http://www.true-faith.co.uk/thru-black-white-eyes-follow-money-17nov13/ Excellent piece. I've bought the latest edition of TF today, and it does what it says on the tin - most informative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Thanks to TF now the Mirror has picked up on this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bonus-brian-reade-newcastles-pard-2796181 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That's a start, abeit a small one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That's a start, abeit a small one. Every journey begins with one step Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 That's a start, abeit a small one. Every journey begins with one step even for paraplegics ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Since there's been a lot of talk about our revenue outside of TV money I thought it could be interesting to make a revenue minus TV money league table (all info from 2011/2012 season, which is the newest data available): 1 - Man Utd - £216m 2 - Arsenal - £160m 3 - Chelsea - £148m 4 - Man City - £143m 5 - Liverpool - £106m 6 - Spurs - £74m 7 - Newcastle Utd - £39m 8 - Villa - £34m 9 - Sunderland - £31m 10 - Everton - £28m 11 - Fulham - £28m 12 - Norwich - £25m 13 - Bolton - £22m 14 - QPR - £20m 15 - Stoke - £20m 16 - Swansea - £19m 17 - Wolves - £18m 18 - West Brom - £17m 19 - Blackburn - £13m 20 - Wigan - £7m Got to at Wigan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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