Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If Shepherd deserved that, Ashley deserves something far more sinister. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd have Shepherd back in a heartbeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd have Shepherd back in a heartbeat. Anything to get rid of Pardew and Ashley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd have Shepherd back in a heartbeat. No chance, him Ashley are both shit for different reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'd have Shepherd back in a heartbeat. No chance, him Ashley are both s*** for different reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Didn't shepherd siphon a shit load of money from NUFC and leave us a crippling debt? the debt was certainly big and the finances were fairly diabolical, spending the same level as a champions league side on wages when we were hilariously far away from even dreaming of competing for a CL place. And yes he and the rest of them did siphon shit loads of cash directly from the club into their back pockets. Fuck Freddie Shephard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. We also might not get dicked off our local rivals twice a season and consistently promote failure as the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Getting Shepherd back would at least end the "We might do a Portsmouth/Leeds" jokes Aye, we might actually do it so it would no longer be funny. We also might not get dicked off our local rivals twice as season and consistently promote failure as the best option. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. You might be right there. Put slightly more money behind our scouting. Still the issue of operating at a loss and how he would finance that of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Neither are the answer but if I had to choose it really doesn't take much thinking about. However the way we were going under Fred we wouldn't exist in our current form IMHO. I also think he'd do a better job second time round. You might be right there. Put slightly more money behind our scouting. Still the issue of operating at a loss and how he would finance that of course. He'd bring in a better manager, he was always reactionary though,bobby lost order, bring in tough guy souness, souness fell out with everyone, bring in nice guy Glenn. Glenn was behind the times, bring in fat Sam with his pro zone and DVD analyst. Right now, IMO, he'd try and bring back Keegan, for better or worse. One thing is for damn sure though, Pardew wouldn't get another minute at this club. That's would be a good enough start, taking responsible action for the clubs finance is something he'd have to take seriously. If we hoyed £50m on top of whatever we've already got from Cabaye plus a new manager the club can get excited about then we start next season looking to do what Everton are currently doing. That £50m would be worth taking out against the club, but he just wouldn't stop or manage it properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I remember hearing about Shepherd getting in Dumas' face in his office and telling him he wasn't getting another penny out of the club. Wonder how many of the current lot he'd be saying that to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was shit at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I remember hearing about Shepherd getting in Dumas' face in his office and telling him he wasn't getting another penny out of the club. Wonder how many of the current lot he'd be saying that to. Never heard this fair play to him. Knowing our lot theyd be forming a que as well. Pardew heading it dick in one hand manager of the year award in his other hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I think there's few better ways of putting my hatred of what Ashley and his cronies have done to this fine club than me pining for the possible return of fucking Shepherd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was shit at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. It nearly worked to be fair, it just wasn't sustainable if it didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Shephard tried to make Newcastle United a success. He was s*** at it but he tried. Which is a million times better than what Ashley is doing. It nearly worked to be fair, it just wasn't sustainable if it didn't. he was too trigger happy and involved to make it sustainable. Even the good times. He always thought he knew best but at the same time, really cared what the fans thought. Hence all the 'big name' signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 We've definitely gone from one extreme to the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I never felt empty during the Shepherd era. Afflicted and pissed off, yes, but never empty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Fat Fred any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. We aren't debt free. We owe mike 120 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 For one thing if Shepherd took over the club again - he'd be able to revel in a debt-free club that our Board peddles about, but would be able to get some decent financing (like every other club does, as long as you get good loans and not over-levered you are fine) and we'd be accountable, relevant, and Shep would be in the press reminding people how big of a club we are, can be and will be. I believe he'd be FAR BETTER then he was last time and infinitely better than Ashley. We aren't debt free. We owe mike 120 million? I know that man, fairly obvious our "asking price" is full-on purchase of club and "debt" to Mike Ashley. The "debt" to Mike should be equity, by the way. But thats for another conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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