The College Dropout Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 If our training facilities are top notch - why have we spoken about building a new training facility for the last couple of years? Ashley has devalued the club top to bottom the moment he walked through the doors. He's advertised in our stadium for free - damaging the brand by linking it to SD which affects other sponsors we could attract. He's hired incompetent people at every level. He's dampened our expectations. Delivered a crap football team (and manager) year after year. The whole strategic direction of the club is awful. That needs to change (and it won't while he's here). We need to hire a proper MD and let him put in place a proper leadership team that can lead the club to success on the pitch, talking Commercial Director and more... and yes a proper football manager . There's only so much a good COO can do if the people on the Board of Directors, Owner or whatever have the wrong strategic direction of the organisation. Can't see any of this happening with Ashley. Moyes or no Moyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 If our training facilities are top notch - why have we spoken about building a new training facility for the last couple of years? Ashley has devalued the club top to bottom the moment he walked through the doors. He's advertised in our stadium for free - damaging the brand by linking it to SD which affects other sponsors we could attract. He's hired incompetent people at every level. He's dampened our expectations. Delivered a crap football team (and manager) year after year. The whole strategic direction of the club is awful. That needs to change (and it won't while he's here). We need to hire a proper MD and let him put in place a proper leadership team that can lead the club to success on the pitch, talking Commercial Director and more... and yes a proper football manager . There's only so much a good COO can do if the people on the Board of Directors, Owner or whatever have the wrong strategic direction of the organisation. Can't see any of this happening with Ashley. Moyes or no Moyes. Yes, we all know Ashley is a shit. That wasn't the point at issue. Let me ask you this, do you think we have the 18th best squad in the league and if not, why are they underperforming? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 If our training facilities are top notch - why have we spoken about building a new training facility for the last couple of years? Ashley has devalued the club top to bottom the moment he walked through the doors. He's advertised in our stadium for free - damaging the brand by linking it to SD which affects other sponsors we could attract. He's hired incompetent people at every level. He's dampened our expectations. Delivered a crap football team (and manager) year after year. The whole strategic direction of the club is awful. That needs to change (and it won't while he's here). We need to hire a proper MD and let him put in place a proper leadership team that can lead the club to success on the pitch, talking Commercial Director and more... and yes a proper football manager . There's only so much a good COO can do if the people on the Board of Directors, Owner or whatever have the wrong strategic direction of the organisation. Can't see any of this happening with Ashley. Moyes or no Moyes. Yes, we all know Ashley is a s***. That wasn't the point at issue. Let me ask you this, do you think we have the 18th best squad in the league and if not, why are they underperforming? Over the last 24 months - in the bottom 6 squads, yeah. Real life isn't FM. If something is inherently broken at a club you can't fix it by signing a few wonderkids and expect everything to improve with a new manager. I never wanted SMC in the first place and he should be doing better. But i'm not surprised we are struggling like this. The squad has had massive holes in it for 2 years and we've only tried to fix in the last 6 months - and that is with the wrong approach. No coincidence the clubs in the bottom 3 have been getting things wrong for YEARS in the PL. At every level - board room, managers, squad etc. the managers know aren't the worst of recent times for any of the clubs but they are all suffering from the effects of terrible decisions upon terrible decisions. But yes - sack SMC, he's shit. But he's the last in a long line of mistakes. Tbh he's not even the last Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 But yes - sack SMC, he's shit. On that you have my full agreement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 From a fans perspective Ashley has made a whole series of poor decisions since he bought the club, however he's making money, so no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 From a fans perspective Ashley has made a whole series of poor decisions since he bought the club, however he's making money, so no problem. Jesus, where did someone drag you back from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 From a fans perspective Ashley has made a whole series of poor decisions since he bought the club, however he's making money, so no problem. Jesus, where did someone drag you back from? Haven't been away, just lost interest in arguing when a load of kids insisted a club/board with no ambition is better than one that tries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 We are lucky to have Ashley. Not sure about that when I look at the league table. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/14232739.Crowd_displeaser___but_Newcastle_United_lucky_to_have_Mike_Ashley__says_former_right_hand_man/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 “The model works at the club and Mike has Newcastle United’s best interests at heart. “They are definitely not where they should be this season, but they’ll be better next year. “Mike won’t accept anything less than that.” There isn't a LOL big enough in reply to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I know this has been said a million time, but I really don't understand this guy. We're potentially going to bring in 5 or 6 players this month for 30-40m pounds. If he got a list of the top 20 managers in the world and started calling each them offering some ridiculous sum of money (like 10m/year) he'd get one of them to bite. Do the same for a top director or 'rising star' in the business and these January sprees won't be necessary and we'll earn more in prize money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I know this has been said a million time, but I really don't understand this guy. We're potentially going to bring in 5 or 6 players this month for 30-40m pounds. If he got a list of the top 20 managers in the world and started calling each them offering some ridiculous sum of money (like 10m/year) he'd get one of them to bite. Do the same for a top director or 'rising star' in the business and these January sprees won't be necessary and we'll earn more in prize money. You can't sell a manager or director on for profit though so it probably makes no sense to him. Besides someone who is actually good at their job might have ideas above their station for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I know this has been said a million time, but I really don't understand this guy. We're potentially going to bring in 5 or 6 players this month for 30-40m pounds. If he got a list of the top 20 managers in the world and started calling each them offering some ridiculous sum of money (like 10m/year) he'd get one of them to bite. Do the same for a top director or 'rising star' in the business and these January sprees won't be necessary and we'll earn more in prize money. You can't sell a manager or director on for profit though so it probably makes no sense to him. Besides someone who is actually good at their job might have ideas above their station for the club. He got £3m for fucking Pardew like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I know this has been said a million time, but I really don't understand this guy. We're potentially going to bring in 5 or 6 players this month for 30-40m pounds. If he got a list of the top 20 managers in the world and started calling each them offering some ridiculous sum of money (like 10m/year) he'd get one of them to bite. Do the same for a top director or 'rising star' in the business and these January sprees won't be necessary and we'll earn more in prize money. You can't sell a manager or director on for profit though so it probably makes no sense to him. Besides someone who is actually good at their job might have ideas above their station for the club. He got £3m for fucking Pardew like I'll give you that one, possibly the greatest piece of football business I have ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Surely someone smarter than me could also give him some projections on how much players would be worth if they were playing for a high performing team (and thus playing well). The manager would pay for himself. It's all about control and power and it's so fucking irritating because we could be something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/are-newcastle-united-about-to-profit-from-mike-ashley-a6842846.html Hmm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Lose the next two and McClarens knackered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/are-newcastle-united-about-to-profit-from-mike-ashley-a6842846.html Hmm.... Sounds like the cart is finally getting bolted to the horse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/are-newcastle-united-about-to-profit-from-mike-ashley-a6842846.html Hmm.... Sounds like the cart is finally getting bolted to the horse Go and hire a decent manager instead of terrible has been thankful for a job yes men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/are-newcastle-united-about-to-profit-from-mike-ashley-a6842846.html Hmm.... Sounds like the cart is finally getting bolted to the horse still gonna crash with an idiot holding the reins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 The horse is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Fantastic, will be sharing this on the old social media. MySpace? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookidge Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 "Would've folded under shepard". Haha. It's not leeds or 18th for fuck sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Lots of Ashley apologists have come out of the woodwork over the last 24hrs or so. I despair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Lots of Ashley apologists have come out of the woodwork over the last 24hrs or so. I despair. Fuck, bump in the thread had me hoping he was dead or something. Thanks for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 What a Farce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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