Darth Crooks Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Bridge burned/ship sailed + deliberate mixup = hilarious gag. Uh oh, someones not getting any at the minute. Don't worry there was no passive aggression there just an explanation. I promise - and I'm up to eyes in it. Jocking the bitches, smacking the hoes 24/7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Bridge burned/ship sailed + deliberate mixup = hilarious gag. Uh oh, someones not getting any at the minute. Don't worry there was no passive aggression there just an explanation. I promise - and I'm up to eyes in it. Jocking the bitches, smacking the hoes 24/7 I wasn't worried in the slightest. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Bridge burned/ship sailed + deliberate mixup = hilarious gag. Uh oh, someones not getting any at the minute. Don't worry there was no passive aggression there just an explanation. I promise - and I'm up to eyes in it. Jocking the bitches, smacking the hoes 24/7 I wasn't worried in the slightest. :lol: Gettin' big to me fam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Espio Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Bitches be steppin' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Allow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Not sure what all this wild talk is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't think getting relegated will make him more likely to sell at all. To be honest, it will make it harder. He has his price and that won't change - who is going to pay such a phenomenal amount for a has-been failing Championship club? We have to be succeeding for him to sell. Which makes his decisions even more bizarre. Absolutely this, said it all along. That makes no sense either. His primary aim is premier league exposure - he'd just keep us if successful, he just can't be arsed to do the necessary legwork. I agree he wouldn't sell it quickly as he's a stubborn arsehole but if we're down there long term is that attitude going to persist? I don't know how you can be so sure either way. So much of the motivation relies on being in the big time. Put it this way, if he wants £400m* then Mike Ashley is the kind of person that will still want £400m after a couple of years in the Championship (in fact, he will probably want more as we will get less income down there). He won't flog us on the cheap, he just won't - otherwise he would have done that by now. *for the sake of argument, not saying that he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't think getting relegated will make him more likely to sell at all. To be honest, it will make it harder. He has his price and that won't change - who is going to pay such a phenomenal amount for a has-been failing Championship club? We have to be succeeding for him to sell. Which makes his decisions even more bizarre. Absolutely this, said it all along. That makes no sense either. His primary aim is premier league exposure - he'd just keep us if successful, he just can't be arsed to do the necessary legwork. I agree he wouldn't sell it quickly as he's a stubborn arsehole but if we're down there long term is that attitude going to persist? I don't know how you can be so sure either way. So much of the motivation relies on being in the big time. Put it this way, if he wants £400m* then Mike Ashley is the kind of person that will still want £400m after a couple of years in the Championship (in fact, he will probably want more as we will get less income down there). He won't flog us on the cheap, he just won't - otherwise he would have done that by now. *for the sake of argument, not saying that he does. I hear what your saying and I don't doubt it could well be the case however that scenario hasn't played out before. Sure we went down before but he was supremely confident of a swift return. He might even feel that way again for two, three years or so if (lol) we go down this year. We've not got to a point yet where PL is a distant possibility. What I am 100% of is as long as he views a cycle of finishing low in the prem/yo-yoing as an option/possibility then he'll never leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 The pressure will increase on him once we've been down a year or two. Then he'll have to make a call about how long he is in this for. He'll still need a buyer who thinks they can get us back unto the PL mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I think the crowds will be lower than last time we went down. That time there was a defiance and it was a novelty, both of those are gone now, I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 Now that it looks like relegation is almost 100% confirmed I'm veering more and more towards going down again and ripping the club apart. Scatter the bits for miles and put it back together properly with people who genuinely care for the club and who put it's interests first. Keeping the current status quo will just prolong it even longer, lance the boil the quicker the better and if it means going to the arse end of the country every other week then so be it. Supporting the club and having a bit of pride in it is far more important than following the current NUFC in the PL. I want my club back and if it needs to be virtually destroyed first then so be it. Fuck it. Sounds grand to me. Give me matches in front of an empty stadium, league football international weekends and derbies with Hartlepool. Mike Ashley's Newcastle United isn't my Newcastle United, so dropping through the pyramid will hurt him more than it hurts me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't think getting relegated will make him more likely to sell at all. To be honest, it will make it harder. He has his price and that won't change - who is going to pay such a phenomenal amount for a has-been failing Championship club? We have to be succeeding for him to sell. Which makes his decisions even more bizarre. Absolutely this, said it all along. That makes no sense either. His primary aim is premier league exposure - he'd just keep us if successful, he just can't be arsed to do the necessary legwork. I agree he wouldn't sell it quickly as he's a stubborn arsehole but if we're down there long term is that attitude going to persist? I don't know how you can be so sure either way. So much of the motivation relies on being in the big time. Put it this way, if he wants £400m* then Mike Ashley is the kind of person that will still want £400m after a couple of years in the Championship (in fact, he will probably want more as we will get less income down there). He won't flog us on the cheap, he just won't - otherwise he would have done that by now. *for the sake of argument, not saying that he does. MA has never had the majority of the fanbase against him though. That's more likely to happen if we go down IMO. He bought the club to advertise SD, if his ownership becomes toxic to SD then he might think twice about waiting for the money he wants. It's up to the fanbase to drive his asking price down - boycotts, anti-SD protests whatever it takes. Fans can be as cynical as they want with regard to protests but the fact is that the fanbase hasn't actually yet fought against MA as one, no-one knows what will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I am not sure the market is there for big foreign investors now, for us or other 2nd and 3rd tier premier league teams. OK there is TV money but so much needs to be spent, with the exception of Leicester, success is not guaranteed (City/Chelsea/Man U this season). In any event no one will pay the kind of cash Ashley would want for us. With SD struggling as well, he would want as much as possible right now, if at all. Time to really get on his back, closely followed by Charney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted April 5, 2016 Share Posted April 5, 2016 I don't think getting relegated will make him more likely to sell at all. To be honest, it will make it harder. He has his price and that won't change - who is going to pay such a phenomenal amount for a has-been failing Championship club? We have to be succeeding for him to sell. Which makes his decisions even more bizarre. Absolutely this, said it all along. That makes no sense either. His primary aim is premier league exposure - he'd just keep us if successful, he just can't be arsed to do the necessary legwork. I agree he wouldn't sell it quickly as he's a stubborn arsehole but if we're down there long term is that attitude going to persist? I don't know how you can be so sure either way. So much of the motivation relies on being in the big time. Put it this way, if he wants £400m* then Mike Ashley is the kind of person that will still want £400m after a couple of years in the Championship (in fact, he will probably want more as we will get less income down there). He won't flog us on the cheap, he just won't - otherwise he would have done that by now. *for the sake of argument, not saying that he does. Im sorry but I totally disagree.The reason Mike Ashley hasn't "flogged" us is because we are extremely beneifical to Sports Direct as we are still in the Premier League, pretty much the most watched weekly sporting event in the world. The only reason Mike Ashley is here is to benefit Sports Direct, remember. As long as Sports Direct profit from their relationship with Newcastle, he will stay. Now take Premier League football away from Newcastle and you take away Sports Direct's biggest benefit of the relationship. Will he take a hit for a year or two to try and get us back, of course he will, especially with the parachute payments we will receive. However when it gets to the point we no longer benefit Sports Direct he will be gone. As far as would he sell the club for less than £250m or whatever? He certainly will. Do you think Ashley would give a s*** about 100m (this is not even considering how much he as already made from the club, so he has probably still made a profit)? He's lost nearly 1 billion pounds off the Sports Direct shares in the last year and he couldnt give a s***. £100-200m is nothing to Ashley if he deems it not worth the hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Shields Gazette @shieldsgazette 14m14 minutes ago Revealed! Newcastle's £32.4m profit and £48.3m cash pile http://trib.al/aHODSh3 #nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Also, call me crazy but I thought the club generated money every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Well, you would think that cash pot will be away by now. Also - the debt to Ashley remains unchanged...... funny that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I don't think getting relegated will make him more likely to sell at all. To be honest, it will make it harder. He has his price and that won't change - who is going to pay such a phenomenal amount for a has-been failing Championship club? We have to be succeeding for him to sell. Which makes his decisions even more bizarre. Absolutely this, said it all along. That makes no sense either. His primary aim is premier league exposure - he'd just keep us if successful, he just can't be arsed to do the necessary legwork. I agree he wouldn't sell it quickly as he's a stubborn arsehole but if we're down there long term is that attitude going to persist? I don't know how you can be so sure either way. So much of the motivation relies on being in the big time. Put it this way, if he wants £400m* then Mike Ashley is the kind of person that will still want £400m after a couple of years in the Championship (in fact, he will probably want more as we will get less income down there). He won't flog us on the cheap, he just won't - otherwise he would have done that by now. *for the sake of argument, not saying that he does. Im sorry but I totally disagree.The reason Mike Ashley hasn't "flogged" us is because we are extremely beneifical to Sports Direct as we are still in the Premier League, pretty much the most watched weekly sporting event in the world. The only reason Mike Ashley is here is to benefit Sports Direct, remember. As long as Sports Direct profit from their relationship with Newcastle, he will stay. Now take Premier League football away from Newcastle and you take away Sports Direct's biggest benefit of the relationship. Will he take a hit for a year or two to try and get us back, of course he will, especially with the parachute payments we will receive. However when it gets to the point we no longer benefit Sports Direct he will be gone. As far as would he sell the club for less than £250m or whatever? He certainly will. Do you think Ashley would give a s*** about 100m (this is not even considering how much he as already made from the club, so he has probably still made a profit)? He's lost nearly 1 billion pounds off the Sports Direct shares in the last year and he couldnt give a s***. £100-200m is nothing to Ashley if he deems it not worth the hassle. But if we're on Sky at least once a month whilst in the Championship (assuming the viewing figures will be around 300-500k), and a couple of thousand supporters from 23 other teams spread throughout the country are coming up to St James' every other week, isn't that still highly beneficial to Sports Direct in the grand scheme of things? His tat brand plastered everywhere may not have the international exposure once we're out of the Premiership, but I'd argue there's still a relatively strong domestic beneficial relationship in play. Otherwise big sponsors wouldn't bother with Championship teams. Hence, taking your last sentance about Ashley not caring about a couple of hundred million as a premise, if NUFC in the Championship is still of some benefit to Sports Direct, surely that means he's not going to be inclined to sell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 He bought NUFC to grow SD in foreign markets, SD is already well known in the UK now. So I cant see us being in the championship having much pulling power for SD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Rotherham is kind of a foreign market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Rotherham is kind of a foreign market. No disrespect to Rotherham but id imagine the people from that town will be big customers of SD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 http://www.teamtalk.com/news/newcastle-post-significant-and-staggering-rise-to-annual-profits Newcastle have announced a rise in profits to £32.4million in their annual accounts, but managing director Lee Charnley accepted results on the field are most important right now. Rafael Benitez’s men are 19th in the Premier League with only seven matches remaining, having fallen to a 3-2 loss in Saturday’s crunch clash at relegation rivals Norwich. Off the field things are looking rosier and United have announced a post-tax profit of £32.4m for the financial year ending June 30, 2015 – a significant rise on the £18.7m figure for 2014. Net cash inflow from operating activities has risen to £39.1m, but managing director Charnley knows the main issues are on the field. “We appreciate that at the present time, football results and not financial results are what our supporters want to see from us,” he said. “That said, it would be wrong for the club not to acknowledge the submission of our accounts for the period July 14 to June 15. “We understand, however, that what you want to see are results on the pitch. There are still 21 points to play for and lots can, and likely will, happen over the next seven games. “We of course acknowledge the seriousness of our situation. However we must remain positive and retain the belief that we can secure our Premier League status and we are doing everything we can to support Rafa and the team.” The financial report shows owner Mike Ashley has not used Newcastle’s profit to chip away at the £129m owed in the form of interest free loans from him and companies under his control. None of the debt has been repaid and the Sports Direct founder has not taken any other money from Newcastle during the year or since the year end. The results show the club had £48.3m in the bank at the end of the financial year, but the club’s net spend on players during the subsequent transfer windows amounted to just under £80million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 does that make us top 4 of the balance sheet league? we qualified for their CL mike, fuck off now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I would suggest those books have been cooked in a way to attract the type who wants to buy a football club. Forget what he said.. i think he'll be away from this club in the next year. Whatever division we're playing in. I would dearly love to see what Rafa could do with the club but i'm ok with being relegated if it burns the club and it's regime to the ground.. the foundations are rancid at the moment, it needs a total rebuilding job. Not just the squad, the ethos from youth training, all the way up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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