Skeletor Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The talk of Sammeobi starting ahead of Ben Arfa is crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'm pretty sure Sammy will only be starting if Best is out, so Ben Arfa will probably be starting up top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Or Sammy's workrate is better suited to this particular game, best team in the league away. Would be a surprise mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ah, workrate my left nut. We need quality and the ability to keep the ball in this game. Sammy gives absolutely nothing HBA can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I doubt Sammy can put in a better defensive shift than Ben Arfa, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 FWIW I think Ben Arfa would have a blinder tomorrow if he started. I get the impression tomorrow he'd have a point to prove and a match to win. Which i know sounds a bit obvious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ah, workrate my left nut. We need quality and the ability to keep the ball in this game. Sammy gives absolutely nothing HBA can't. Was only a suggestion as to why Pardew might go that way. You do realise that if you actually get anymore self righteous you will disappear up your own arse like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 what's up with Best? he's definitely got the work rate to make a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 FWIW I think Ben Arfa would have a blinder tomorrow if he started. I get the impression tomorrow he'd have a point to prove and a match to win. Which i know sounds a bit obvious... Very true, rather see him off whatever front man than on the right of midfield though, give him more time and space to do damage going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 what's up with Best? he's definitely got the work rate to make a difference Fitness test apparently, might not make it or be risked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Keep it to the same 11 where possible. It might be worth playing Ben Arfa on the right with Guthrie and Cabaye in the middle, Jonas wide left. Another thing for thought, could be to man mark Silva with Jonas. He could match him for work rate and take him out the game. Do that and all of a sudden you have a chance to match/dominate the midfield and actually turn this into a balanced fixture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 FWIW I think Ben Arfa would have a blinder tomorrow if he started. I get the impression tomorrow he'd have a point to prove and a match to win. Which i know sounds a bit obvious... Very true, rather see him off whatever front man than on the right of midfield though, give him more time and space to do damage going forward. Or isolate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Keep it to the same 11 where possible. It might be worth playing Ben Arfa on the right with Guthrie and Cabaye in the middle, Jonas wide left. Another thing for thought, could be to man mark Silva with Jonas. He could match him for work rate and take him out the game. Do that and all of a sudden you have a chance to match/dominate the midfield and actually turn this into a balanced fixture. Aye got to shut Silva down, i also think we need to pin their full backs in, they provide the width for them, and get forward relentlessly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 FWIW I think Ben Arfa would have a blinder tomorrow if he started. I get the impression tomorrow he'd have a point to prove and a match to win. Which i know sounds a bit obvious... Very true, rather see him off whatever front man than on the right of midfield though, give him more time and space to do damage going forward. Or isolate him. Thats the spirit, look for the worst points, do actually want us to win or as it appears, to be able to come on here and brag about how right you might have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yeah, I'm advocating playing Ben Arfa over Sammy Ameobi because I want us to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Keep it to the same 11 where possible. It might be worth playing Ben Arfa on the right with Guthrie and Cabaye in the middle, Jonas wide left. Another thing for thought, could be to man mark Silva with Jonas. He could match him for work rate and take him out the game. Do that and all of a sudden you have a chance to match/dominate the midfield and actually turn this into a balanced fixture. Aye got to shut Silva down, i also think we need to pin their full backs in, they provide the width for them, and get forward relentlessly. I think it's important that we go into this game without a defeatist attitude as a team. We have equally dangerous members of our team, and a team spirit that's not to be questioned. It could also be an idea, that when defending Ba tucks in on the left, and everyone slides right (as daft as it sounds) pushing Ben Arfa up with Best and Jonas in to cover Silva. This would mean we would have a very hard-working defensive set up which would quickly change to a widespread attacking four with the ball, a target man and goalscorer upfront. Just an idea like, not necessarily what I'd do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yeah, I'm advocating playing Ben Arfa over Sammy Ameobi because I want us to lose. I dont think for one minute you want us to lose, but you do seem to enjoy being the most dismissive and defeatist poster in the history of the Internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Keep it to the same 11 where possible. It might be worth playing Ben Arfa on the right with Guthrie and Cabaye in the middle, Jonas wide left. Another thing for thought, could be to man mark Silva with Jonas. He could match him for work rate and take him out the game. Do that and all of a sudden you have a chance to match/dominate the midfield and actually turn this into a balanced fixture. Aye got to shut Silva down, i also think we need to pin their full backs in, they provide the width for them, and get forward relentlessly. I think it's important that we go into this game without a defeatist attitude as a team. We have equally dangerous members of our team, and a team spirit that's not to be questioned. It could also be an idea, that when defending Ba tucks in on the left, and everyone slides right (as daft as it sounds) pushing Ben Arfa up with Best and Jonas in to cover Silva. This would mean we would have a very hard-working defensive set up which would quickly change to a widespread attacking four with the ball, a target man and goalscorer upfront. Just an idea like, not necessarily what I'd do. Like this , optimistic and giving our chances a highlight, this is possibly the hardest game of the season yet i dont feel like i have in other seasons, i actually feel we have a chance of nicking something, or at least putting up a good performance and not rolling over like Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'm pretty sure Sammy will only be starting if Best is out, so Ben Arfa will probably be starting up top. How I see it too actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Sammy will be on the rightif he starts and Barfa would be behind Ba, hasn't Pardew said that he won't play Barfa on the right before? Think there is a very strong chance their both starting this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Wouldn't start Sammy in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Sammy will be on the rightif he starts and Barfa would be behind Ba, hasn't Pardew said that he won't play Barfa on the right before? Think there is a very strong chance their both starting this game. I don't think he's specifically said he won't (could be wrong), but said he see's him, and wants to play him, off the striker. I'm sure at that moment he wasn't considering the loss of two of his three wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Wouldn't start Sammy in a million years. Sammy over HBA tomorrow would be as bad as when Souness played N'Zogbia ahead of Robert in Lisbon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Isn't there a chance Sammy will start as well as HBA? The line up seems to include playing Santon in midfield so maybe Sammy will get a wide slot instead of Santon and Ben Arfa plays up front? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Kellly and Peacock upfront please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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