Kid Icarus Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Miggy's was 100% a pen like. I'd say they get rightly given 80% of the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Miggy's was 100% a pen like. I'd say they get rightly given 80% of the time Looked like a pen to me too, but they didn't even review it, right? That's what the commentator said anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SEMTEX said: Looked like a pen to me too, but they didn't even review it, right? That's what the commentator said anyway. Yeah, they didn't even review it. I lean towards what The Prophet said about it being one of those ones VAR doesn't overturn either way, but I think that's very close to clear and obvious error territory for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Interesting that this thread wasn't bumped yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 O’Neil frothing at the mouth about the pen decision in his post-match. I thought it was soft, but I can see why VAR didn’t overrule it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Don't blame O'Neil, it was never a penalty I'm just surprised VAR didn't actually tell the ref to look at it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) If you slide in then pull out once you've realised you've fucked up it's still a penalty if the attacker is impeded. It's a shite, soft penalty to give away out of nowhere, and Schar made sure of the contact, but it was a clear foul. The same with the Gordon penalty a little while back, if you're late to the ball it's a foul. Edited October 29, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) Lascelles was massively lucky though, his pull back was borderline and I doubt it would have been overturned if it was given. Taylor was shite in general though and Wolves broke 3-4 times after clear fouls. Edited October 29, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I'm really trying to remove any bias but I honestly don't see how that penalty call was so contentious. It's unlucky and Schar buys it, certainly, and it's disproportionate that an infringement like that leads to such a major scoring chance; but Schar capitalises on the Wolves player really fucking about. Hwang doesn't receive it cleanly and, relatively speaking, takes an age to manoeuvre himself into making a clearance. Schar pinches the ball and takes a kicking. Soft, lucky, borderline probably, but it's hardly up there with some of the true scandals of the VAR age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: If you slide in then pull out once you've realised you've fucked up it's still a penalty if the attacker is impeded. It's a shite, soft penalty to give away out of nowhere, and Schar made sure of the contact, but it was a clear foul. The same with the Gordon penalty a little while back, if you're late to the ball it's a foul. Sliding in and pulling out when you've fucked up can also lead to unwanted kids. Best to use protection to be safe! ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Lascelles was massively lucky though, his pull back was borderline and I doubt it would have been overturned if it was given. Taylor was shite in general though and Wolves broke 3-4 times after clear fouls. I've no idea how that wasn't a straight red, I'd have been furious if the situation was reversed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: If you slide in then pull out once you've realised you've fucked up it's still a penalty if the attacker is impeded. It's a shite, soft penalty to give away out of nowhere, and Schar made sure of the contact, but it was a clear foul. The same with the Gordon penalty a little while back, if you're late to the ball it's a foul. Yeah I don’t understand the incredulity of people about it. They applied the rules correctly in that it wasn’t a clear and obvious error. If the ref hadn't given the pen we wouldn’t have got it on VAR but since he did and it wasn’t super clear either way it stood. Thankless task for the refs, they applied their guidance correctly but still get pelters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 There’s impact with Schar’s shin, he feels it and holds his shin where the impact was. Might have been soft but that’s never getting overturned. Lascelles was a yellow, it wasn’t a goal scoring opportunity. Little was said about the clear shirt pull from the neck of the shirt, impeding a header 6 yards out, which was dismissed as no more than “they don’t get given these days”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) I mean Lascelles pulling that lanky cunt back in the box. I missed the replay but he looked all over him, and clearly stopped him from getting involved in play. Edited October 29, 2023 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: I mean Lascelles pulling that lanky cunt back in the box. I missed the replay but he looked all over him, and clearly stopped him from getting involved in play. Oh that, getting touch tight, now those don’t get given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 It wasn’t even touch tight, he looked like he was about to suplex him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 25 minutes ago, gbandit said: It wasn’t even touch tight, he looked like he was about to suplex him No he just wanted to get the shirt swap done early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Not seen match of the day but was much made of that VAR decision against Burnley? The lines showed he was onside but then they changed the lines to make it offside. I mean thats a pretty big deal for me as it shows it can be manipulated. Imagine that was against Liverpool, it would have been front page news in my opinion but its Burnley so swept under the carpet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 3 hours ago, Pokerprince2004 said: Not seen match of the day but was much made of that VAR decision against Burnley? The lines showed he was onside but then they changed the lines to make it offside. I mean thats a pretty big deal for me as it shows it can be manipulated. Imagine that was against Liverpool, it would have been front page news in my opinion but its Burnley so swept under the carpet Having seen the offside technology used in the World Cup & in the Champion's League, it beggars beliefs that it hasn't been adopted in the Premiership as well. So much simpler and doesn't require some gimp using an actual ruler to draw lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smootsmack Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, ikri said: Having seen the offside technology used in the World Cup & in the Champion's League, it beggars beliefs that it hasn't been adopted in the Premiership as well. So much simpler and doesn't require some gimp using an actual ruler to draw lines. And it must be quicker which seems to be the main criticism of whatever they're doing now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Tsunami said: Oh that, getting touch tight, now those don’t get given. We’ll, they don’t usually get given…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I missed the city one live. Did VAR stop play for that? That's nowhere near the supposed clear and obvious threshold is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cf said: I missed the city one live. Did VAR stop play for that? That's nowhere near the supposed clear and obvious threshold is it? Yeah, VAR referral. Onfield decision should have stood. I’d be livid if that had been given against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Don’t think he deserved to be demoted if VAR didn’t overturn his decision. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12999479/gary-oneil-warns-officials-over-refereeing-wolves-after-anthony-taylor-is-latest-to-be-dropped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 If it's because an overall shoddy performance fair enough. But if it's solely over the penalty that's mad. In real time it was sumptuous theatrics from Schar that could've fooled anyone. He never would've been demoted for that decision before VAR imo so it should come down to VAR failings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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