Bimpy474 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: Watching the ref in the West Ham game, and the way he nodded made me feel he was simply obeying his masters. These cunts are being trained with VAR in mind, it's not incompetence. He was talking to the VAR ref Gillet, not some sort of master overlord, ridiculous. Edited September 3, 2022 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) It's not incompetence. If it was then the same proportion of ridiculous decisions would go against the top 6. It's something else entirely. Edited September 3, 2022 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Bimpy474 said: He was talking the VAR ref Gillet, not some sort of master overlord, ridiculous. I'm well aware who is was talking to you dork. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Happinesstan said: I'm well aware who is was talking to you dork. Well that sums you up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Bimpy474 said: Well that sums you up. That was a worthwhile exchange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Happinesstan said: That was a worthwhile exchange. You may be in minority with that view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dembacha Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: VAR should be done remotely by independent referees who aren’t in a room together and who have no context of the original call or the match score. Just get sent a clip to review and vote on the outcome. 10 referees or so, majority wins. At the end of each game they need to do a write up giving their perspective of each event they judged, which can be publicly viewed. Who decides what needs to be reviewed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said: You may be in minority with that view. Oh you're such a shining wit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Happinesstan said: Oh you're such a shining wit. I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 They’re professional referees, for all we can lament how shite they are incompetence of this level is extremely unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 It's a fucking joke this VAR like. Just watched a Leeds pen similar to Jacob Murphy at Stamford Bridge not given and then Marsch red carded for complaining. Feel very sorry for the guy. I've said it for years but nothing will change until managers start to walk their teams off the pitch when these blatant bullshit decisions are made. I'd fully back it in any game by any manager tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dembacha said: Who decides what needs to be reviewed? Could do it multiple ways, each team could have X ammount of reviews a game, and declare which incidents they want to send off. VARs wouldn’t know which team sent off the clip though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 If it's not incompetence or corruption then there is a 3rd option, which is the effect of the intimidation that the so-called big clubs exert over officials on and off the pitch. This has been the case for a number of decades now, it was definitely going on when I was a kid in the 90s (it was the cause of Keegan's 'Love It' rant, obviously) and imo the effect of it can't be under-estimated. The way that coaches and players from these clubs get at these officials is disgusting, just look at Klopp the other night in the 4th official's ear the whole game with a face like a psychopath every time an innocuous incident occurred on the pitch. And it's human nature from the refs (well it's gutless as well but it's somewhat understandable) that 1) they let the unrelenting noise influence them, 2) they veer towards decisions that will give them an easier life, and 3) they make decisions while factoring in the fuss they may cause afterwards, and we all know this fuss is amplified by the media when a decision goes against one of their favoured clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Even the angle they show the ref you can see the blatant push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 hours ago, midds said: City drew Liverpool drew Spurs won Chelsea won, none lost Job done, let's move on. VAR triumphs again, "getting the big calls for the right teams right" I mean, we did get two goals (rightly) chalked off by VAR today. If they wanted to help us out they could have. Chelsea is another kettle of very pungent fish entirely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 As always the reaction of the defenders tells you as much as anything and Mitchell did and said nowt just like the rest of them. Also, being mega devils advocate surely it’s a booking for Willock if it’s a foul. Off the ground, catches him head height, out of control. So that was fucking wrong as well. Useless cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: They’re professional referees, for all we can lament how shite they are incompetence of this level is extremely unlikely. I know they are professional, but there seems to be a lot of new referees without the experience. They mentioned it on MOTD in relation to our game, but that West Ham ref looked like another newbie. Then you've got the Aussie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 In the Leeds game the assistant ref who got Marsch sent off was that useless cunt Stroud from the infamous Burton game. If that's the standard of referee coming into the.PL then we're fucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Mason was on the Liverpool game too wasn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) They've gone out of their way and tried very hard to disallow three goals this week. Stuff benefit of the doubt, goals and entertainment - the wrong teams are scoring why would someone commit the subtle foul of a flying cross-body on the keeper that also injures themselves? Edited September 3, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Mason was on the Liverpool game too wasn't he? No it was Andy Madley according to club site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Mason was on the Liverpool game too wasn't he? He was for Wolves IIRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 50 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: Do you guys think its incompetence or are they doing it on purpose? I can't wrap my head around why anyone let alone an experinced official would make those calls? When they used to review this stuff in the studio on Monday Nights, Andy Gray and some guest and whoever did ITVs' version, they would have come to the correct conclusion with the benefit of replays nearly every time if not every time. Now that same tech is applied in real time mistakes are being made on a regular basis? I don't know how that's possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 So what we're saying is either the 'officials' are being corrupt and deliberately making the wrong calls for some nefarious end, or they are in a small minority who seem to regularly get these decisions wrong when most others clearly see what the correct call should be? The technology of VAR works fine, it's the decisions being made that are wrong... and it's that which makes it even more infuriating, to be honest I think the refs should be wearing a mic, the same as rugby refs, so everyone can hear what they're discussing while looking at VAR as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Be interesting to know how many points the big six have benefited from as a result of poor referring decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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